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A Definition of Consent.

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DreamingofEden · 02/09/2018 13:58

Consent is not about saying “yes” or “no”; it’s about having the capability to understand the implications of behaviours that are suggestive of, or state, “yes” or “no”.

Furthermore, it's about being suggestive of giving consent, or stating consent, without being threatened, intimidated, or bribed.

Consent is also fluid throughout time, this means that consent may be given, and then withdrawn or changed over any given time period.

Would you agree with that, or would you want to change it in anyway?

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Banana8080 · 02/09/2018 14:20

This video is excellent in defining consent, you are correct - it’s more than a simple yes or no.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=oQbei5JGiT8

KurriKurri · 02/09/2018 14:28

Not sure how I would word it - but what you have written in my opinion is very unclear, I've read it several times and I don't really know what you are saying (well I kind of do but your sentence is so convoluted I am doubting myself)- could you explain what you mean with some examples and maybe there will be a more succinct way of expressing what you mean.
(I am assuming you are trying to define this for an essay or rpesentation or something ?)

What you have written seems to confuse the giver of consent and the receiver of consent - who has to be able to understand the behaviour suggestive of consent?
Because you start out mentioning that consent is not about saying yes or no (giver of consent) then you say consent is about understanding behaviours suggestive of (presumably by the receiver of consent). This is why your definition is very confused.
Or are you saying that people giving consent should be aware that their behaviour may imply consent even if they have not actually said 'yes' (clearly nonsense, but a possible interpretation of what you have said)

KurriKurri · 02/09/2018 14:29

But yes to the fluid thing - that's clear enough.

KurriKurri · 02/09/2018 14:32

You've got way too much going on after your first semi colon. do you need to have 'or state' in that sentence ? Do you need to have 'implications of behaviours' or would simply 'behaviours' be enough (it is hard to know without an example)

DreamingofEden · 02/09/2018 14:38

Thank you, let me give some examples of what I mean. It may take a while to type of the scenarios!

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KurriKurri · 02/09/2018 15:03

OK - thanks I may well just be being obtuse - I've just been in hospital and still have a temperature Grin

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