To ask your opinion on the Big Brother / Roxanne Pallett situation?

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Ok, I'll admit I didn't watch it before and thanks to all the publicity have caught up. You can see from the footage that she is clearly lying, embellishing what happened. Then the following day she reiterates her claims and makes it seem like he full on assaulted her. What a fucking terrifying person. I'm at the point where I am thinking was the whole thing a set-up gone wrong?Surely no-one can be that cruel and stupid?!

Some may say. "Oh come now she's had her wrist slapped now and apologised. What more do people want a bloody public crucifixion. Your punishment can't go on forever, and Somewhere along the line they would have a point.
However had it not been for the CCTV which captured what happened Ryans career would have been finished and He may well have faced charges. It's only thanks to the cameras that she didn't ruin his life. Had the cameras not been there would she have still came forward and admitted she got it wrong.

There was an article in the Fail this morning which summarised the tweets of at least 20 of her Emmerdale co stars, which was interesting and very, very telling.

Not a single vote of support. In fact, many of them referred to karma and the truth coming out.

She's clearly not as good an actor as she thought she was if she wasn't able to hide her true self for the course of the programme. Or, possibly more likely, she's so up her own arse she thinks the whole world loves her.

I predict a move to the US fairly soon to "break in to films" then a newspaper article in about 5 years time of "where are they now" with her waitressing in LA.

The whole thing is utterly bizarre surely she must have realused there were cameras everywhere rhat proved she was lying

That apology this morning was bloody infuriating, she said she'd misread the situation & exaggerated...no love, you LIED!

She didn't have to review the footage to realise that, as she kept reenacting it to the other housemates, as him repeatedly punching her in the ribs!!

A vile & very dangerous woman, who has been outed.

Ryan's despair & confusion when he realised that she'd deliberately tried to ruin him was very hard to watch.

She's an evil bitch.
Apparently she's on The Island (Bear Grylls) next week, and walks after only 5 days as the camp fire smell reminds her of a house fire she was apparently in.
I think she's a professional victim.

She was in a fire apparently @Loopylou6 when she was a teenager i read it on wiki today howeveri rhink its very telling that none of her ex colleagues have come out in support of her or even her ex management company .

And this is why reality tv is shit. Who cares about z list actors and their perceived angst?

I hate reality tv and don't watch it but saw this on the news and looked into it.

Trouble is this particular angst has far reaching consequences for people who are experiencing abuse and need to be believed

I don't believe she is sensitive or has MH issues...i think she's evil and narcissistic

What is really annoying is that now it's been discussed on TV and in papers, it's described as 'that punching incident', so anyone reading this for the first time could think there is a genuine debate as to whether he hit her or not. FFS, he didn't touch her! So it should be introduced as 'the lying incident' or the 'roxanne Pallett false accusation incident'.
I agree with other comments too about her not being mentally ill. Just a nasty person, the type who people post about here all the time. Toxic.

I dont agree that Ryan is blameless or a victim. He walked up to a woman about half his body weight who was holding washing, didnt even have her hands free, "play" punched, we see that did happen several times, the footage also isnt clear beyond that so we do not know how msny extra times his fists made contact with her body. By his iwn admission he had jewellry on his hand and caught her with this. This is the same guy who left the mother of his child when the baby was less than one because quote "she didnt do it for him". He comes off as a childish selfish thug who thinks its a laugh to knock a woman about for a joke then cries his eyes out at getting a reaction he didnt want. Ive seem the most pathetuc evidence used against Roxanne, like reference to a Rocky quote about resilience she had on her profile, some bland discussion with a z list presenter about ice skating etc. Im not defending her but the narratuve around this is franjly pathetic. If hes the father of smsll girl he should have more about him.

Thats not what i witnessed at all Romohoho i dont doubt Ryan has his faults and may have been a crap partner however the camera doesnt lie and its very telling that none od her ex collegues are on her side

Bollocks Romohoho.

Romohoho
Is that you Roxy?

Ben and her whipped each other harder with towels. She didn’t go sobbing to the diary room then.

She is one of those people that makes up stuff for attention like the fake cancer suffers and people who make up a miscarriage. Mentally ill; personality disorder.

This kind of idiot means more women being beaten will be seen as hysterical and over reacting ‘like that bird on big brother’

Well only by dickheads who are normally the first to scream Not All Men, but are more than happy to throw all women under the bus.

I dont agree that Ryan is blameless or a victim. He walked up to a woman about half his body weight who was holding washing, didnt even have her hands free, "play" punched, we see that did happen several times, the footage also isnt clear beyond that so we do not know how msny extra times his fists made contact with her body. By his iwn admission he had jewellry on his hand and caught her with this. This is the same guy who left the mother of his child when the baby was less than one because quote "she didnt do it for him". He comes off as a childish selfish thug who thinks its a laugh to knock a woman about for a joke then cries his eyes out at getting a reaction he didnt want. Ive seem the most pathetuc evidence used against Roxanne, like reference to a Rocky quote about resilience she had on her profile, some bland discussion with a z list presenter about ice skating etc. Im not defending her but the narratuve around this is franjly pathetic. If hes the father of smsll girl he should have more about him.

I don't particularly like Ryan Thomas all that much, but so many of his former colleagues have come out in support of him, saying how nice he is, how kind he is and how he wouldn't hurt a fly.

I think you have to put the whole boxing moves into context and that is that he wasn't play punching, he was shadow boxing. Many of them have been doing some boxing training to pass the time, including Roxanne herself. I also heard him say that all he could think of was that his ring may have made contact with her, but he clearly didn't intend to make contact and as she laughed afterwards he thought it may have caught her and possibly hurt a bit at the time, but at the time it didn't seem significant other than as a total accident.

Although you're right that we obviously haven't seen all the footage, Big Brother staff have. Do you seriously think they'd let him stay if he'd done as she accused and used her like a boxer uses a punch bag?

Most of the 'evidence' against RP is far in excess of what you say here and includes a history of making allegations against various and numerous other colleagues and a history of walking out of shows including a stage production.

Ryan Thomas's former partner has now married and apparently he was invited to the wedding. She has also extended supportive views about him over this and so, although the breakdown of their relationship sounds bad, whatever caused it and the fallout seems to have been resolved by them, so that's good enough for me.

She has a history of accusing men of assault even when she's the one who has done the punching then turned around and lied and accused the man of doing it. She's been brandied a bully by some of her former school mates.

She's vile and has been for decades. It's not fair to make excuses for her vile behaviour by putting it down to mental health, that's very insulting to those with genuine mental health issues. Some people are just downright nasty and she's one of them. Her former colleagues have confirmed this even going as far as calling her evil.

Precisely

She isn't causing anyone to blame women who are victims of serious violence or to use derogatory language about women like "Birds". That happens as a consequence of the choices of individuals with misogynistic beliefs.

Actually in my town both men and women use "birds" for women alrhough personally i think its a horrible "term"

That's a fair point romohoho she isn't causing people to behave in those ways but her behaviour will almost certainly put off someone who has gathered the courage to tell someone about abuse for the fear of being accused of making a false accusation .its a very hard place to be and the fear of not being believed is horrific.

Imagine someone reporting it today...there will be some who will question it as a result of her actions

www.ok.co.uk/celebrity-news/1455404/roxanne-pallett-punch-connor-byrne-falsely-accused-violence-ryan-thomas-cbb-celebrity-big-brother
She's done it before allegedly.

She isn't causing anyone to blame women who are victims of serious violence or to use derogatory language about women like "Birds". That happens as a consequence of the choices of individuals with misogynistic beliefs.

True. But huge amounts of people already have concious or unconscious misogynistic beliefs. And she's fuelled them.

Loose women today - an all female programme using this example to highlight how men who have been falsely accused feel. And highlighting the women who make those false allegations and talking about it as if it is common - which it is not.

Numerous other forms of media taking the same approach let alone all the abusers seizing this opportunity to say 'you know my ex? You've seen that Roxanne on CBB? Well that's exactly what happened to me'.

I think she is an abhorrent and damaging individual. I think she is dangerous and I hope this ends her career. There are no excuses for what she did and she'll have to face the consequences.

But..because of the nature of the dynamics and the male/female abuse scenario - the way that the patriarchy works is that she will be held as an example. I won't blame her personally for fuelling misogyny as that suggestion is misogynistic in itself. But..this is the way the patriarchy works.

And whatever anyone says or wants to fight against, her actions have caused a lot of damage, and fucked abused women ever further back in terms of 'we believe you' than they were before.

“Ben and her whipped each other harder with towels. She didn’t go sobbing to the diary room then.”

What does the relationship with someone who isn’t Ryan have to do with the price of fish?