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...to wonder why some colours are really common surnames (white/black/brown/green) and others not?

155 replies

Justbackfromnewwine · 31/08/2018 22:21

Okay maybe I know a Pink but no reds/yellows/blues/oranges/purples.

Why is that I wonder?

OP posts:
LittleBookofCalm · 01/09/2018 08:12

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orange_(name)

Sarahandduck18 · 01/09/2018 08:16

Boyd means yellow.

BlueSkyBurningBright · 01/09/2018 08:19

The surname Rothschild, means the red sign. Which would have been put on the houses where the families lived.

Lilyhatesjaz · 01/09/2018 08:28

How about scarlett, or is that just in Robin Hood

PolkerrisBeach · 01/09/2018 08:29

Agree that the most common surnames - White, Black, Brown, Green etc - would have referred to the place the person came from. According to Wikipedia, surnames have only been a "thing" for less than 1000 years. And it's easy to see how "John who bakes the bread" became John Baker and "Mary with the black hair" became Mary Black.

The orange thing as always fascinated me - orange in Spanish is "naranja". So when they were brought to the UK they would be "a narange". Over the years that became "an orange".

Also colours are in a lot of compound surnames - Whitworth, Whiteley, Whitford, Whittington, Blackford, Blackwell, Greening...

CatkinToadflax · 01/09/2018 08:33

This is a fascinating thread!

I was at university with a girl whose surname was Pink. And Grin at all the discussion about Jason Orange's surname - I assumed for years and years that he must have made it up!

Anniegetyourgun · 01/09/2018 08:46

I used to work with a very nice lady called Mrs Duck. Never heard of anyone called Chicken (but not disbelieving they exist!).

PenelopeFlintstone · 01/09/2018 08:50

I have met a pair of Ducks and a Pigg.
I also know a Hailstone and know of a Snowball!

PenelopeFlintstone · 01/09/2018 08:51

and a Blue - whoops

MsJuniper · 01/09/2018 08:56

I always thought Rose was from Rosen/Rosenberg as I've known several Jewish families with that surname.

ShoobahProbottom · 01/09/2018 09:08

“I have discovered a brand new colour. Not something like Primrose Pink or Magnolia Nightshade or a shade of another colour, something absolutely new and original.
It really is amazing to look at”

Disquieted1 Maybe you’re a Terry Pratchett fan and I’ve missed it although you didn’t seem to bite at “octarine”, however, your “brand new colour” will be some sort of mix or shade of the regular colours. That’s just physics I am afraid.

(misses point of thread entirely)

HushabyeMountainGoat · 01/09/2018 09:16

Rudd is fairly common and most likely derived from red

witherwings · 01/09/2018 09:20

My maiden name was Green and we did a project at school on where surnames came from. My research said it was someone with green eyes or possibly the person that lead the maypole dance at the beginning of spring as they wore all green.
I like that better than the village idiot connotations from a previous op!

LoisWilkerson1 · 01/09/2018 09:26

I know a Blue. I thought he was having me on. I quite like it.

susurration · 01/09/2018 09:35

Would Rothschild have originally been pronounced more like rot-shield?

I find names so fascinating. I've met people with the surname Rainbow and Sunshine before. Can't get more colourful than that!

MarklahMarklah · 01/09/2018 09:38

I thought oranges were first known as "Portingales"? That's what the Tudor reenactment people told me at a medieval fayre I went to recently.

user1495884620 · 01/09/2018 09:45

MarklahMarklah Arabic and Turkish both call oranges portugals (not necessarily spelt like that!) A north African friend told me that it is because oranges come from Portugal.

BestIsWest · 01/09/2018 09:59

The origin of Blewett is blue, possible from blue woolen cloth.

LittleBookofCalm · 01/09/2018 10:05

i think it comes from bloom, ie flowers

LittleBookofCalm · 01/09/2018 10:06

but that could be blu

PhilODox · 01/09/2018 10:31

Disquieted- I'm afraid that philodox already has a meaning!

RayRayBidet · 01/09/2018 11:04

Blumental is German not Latvian.
Blumen = flowers Tal = Valley

BikeRunSki · 01/09/2018 14:59

I once went to open a bank account with my university boyfriend. They asked him what his mother had been before she was Gray. “Green” he said.

OlennasWimple · 01/09/2018 15:07

KickAss - in England surnames started to be used post Norman Conquest (when we started to keep good, formal records of who owned what and where). I don't know about elsewhere - presumably a similar impetus?

Bike - I had a friend who was a King but married and became a Knight

CatchingACold · 01/09/2018 15:07

I had a childhood friend who had surname strawberry