AIBU to be surprise d that dogs are seemingly suddenly everywhere?

[Sibsmum]

What has happened? Has anyone else noticed this phenomenon? Dogs suddenly seen to be allowed into shops, cafes, service station...I am not talking assistance animaks, just general dogs.
Now I am not adverse to dogs, but if a wet nose drew back the curtain as I was getting changed in a shop changing room, I would be miffed ( saw it happen!) And I don't see how dogs in cafes is hygienic. Dogs can be off putting to sacred of dog people. But I don't want to get into the why not...I just really want to know wh at I missed that resulted in this happening

Write to the business. Sure some won't listen but I've had a recent success with getting a "no dogs" rule reinstated at a local cafe. It's in a busy town centre and there were apparently many other complaints written. They won't know people don't like it until you tell them

It's a vile trend, and ridiculous that people think that their dogs are more important than other humans... where is the common courtesy - what is the world coming to? I don't like dogs, am afraid of them too after being bitten, and as I am disabled I cannot respond or get away quickly enough if one comes at me - as they always do, as their stupid owner thinks they have control but of course do not as they can't be arsed to train). My family and I do not wish to be anywhere that dogs are. Sadly the choices for us are becoming fewer and fewer. Beaches - no, loose dogs there, even if notices forbid this, parks - same, footpaths - same, now it's cafes and shops? Utterly crazy. For every dog owner who is thrilled to find their mutt welcome, there is another non-owner who will go elsewhere and forever after avoid that cafe/hotel/shop. Even if there is no dog at that moment I don't want to sit on seats that have had dogs' shitty arses on them, ditto beds in hotel rooms etc. It's vile! Dog owners these day actually seem to believe that their dogs are to be treated no differently from humans. In people's own homes, yes fine, do whatever you like, but in shared public areas? Can't get my head round it.

How wonderful!

It was time.

Lois said 'Sibsmum It’s not “goady”, it’s science. Humans need microbial exposure to develop and maintain a normal immune response, protecting against infection and allergy. '

Great thanks, next time DS11 is having an asthma attack I will tell him to hug a dog and gain magical 'normal immune response'. You utterly unfeeling stupid cow. You do know asthma kills people don't you?

Can you imagine the outrage if anyone said something similar to someone with any other magical condition? But severe allergy - oh it's all your own fault.

I hate it!!! As someone who has been bitten by a dog and is not comfortable around them, I hate that I can't seem to just go to the pub without someone's dog charging at me and them going "oh it's friendly stop being silly"

My brother in law detests dogs, he carries around a portable thing that makes some noise that only dogs can hear. I'm not sure what it is but dogs don't like it and won't approach him. It's a bit over the top but just an idea for those allergic/afraid.

If dog owners think they are more important than you then there's no reason you can't think you're more important than them I guess.

gingham

The dog unfriendly places out number dog friendly places by far. Seems extremely unlikely that you’re running out of places to go.

Dogs smell. And drool. And beg. And bark at other dogs. It really puts me off a place if it allows dogs.

MrsCholly No need for name calling. No obviously hugging a dog during an asthma attack isn’t a good idea if your child is allergic to dogs.

Did you see that study recently that showed that children exposed to dogs and farm animals in the first year of life had a reduced incidence of asthma at age 6? I’m just a stupid cow but i thought it was interesting.

MY dog doesn’t drool, smell or beg.

She is better behaved than some humans and kids.

Now noisy disruptive kids in pubs and cafes really annoy me.

I haven't noticed this either, we had to try four pubs before we could find one who would allow the dog in when we were on a days hiking the other day.

Personally I'd rather sit next to a table with a dog than a table with a child in a pub.

In my experience dogs are often welcome in eating establishments and pubs in areas where they’ve realised turning away walkers with dogs will damage business. Lots of pubs let them in because the pub trade is on its arse and by letting dogs, kids, the lot - they keep open. Ditto most of the British peninsular - economically struggling, few holiday makers - so they now let the dogs in. ‘Muddy boots and paws welcome’ replacing the ‘No walkers, wet clothes, muddy boots or dogs’ signs that were common in my childhood.

Suits me though because I have dogs and kids

Dogs fine in restaurants because they don't go in the kitchen? Let me tell you what I saw a few weeks ago in quite a smart neighbourhood restaurant. A dog jumped from it's owner's lap onto the table and started to eat the food from her plate. She then proceeded to pour some of her drink onto the table for the dog to lap up. It was the canine equivalent of the dirty fuckers who think it's appropriate to change nappies on tables.

Dogs in restaurants is the thin end of the wedge that ends with dogs on tables with their dirty paws and filthy chops everywhere.

Gwynfluff what do you mean by "British peninsular"? Is the word "counties" missing?

It definitely seems to be the in thing to be 'dog friendly' at the moment.

Not necessarily a bad thing, but it depends on the place and the owner. A well behaved dog under the care of a responsible owner doesn't bother me in the slightest. Owners that think everyone should love their dog and not keep it under control is another matter. Unfortunately I see too much of the latter.
I quite like dogs but have never owned one. My children are now scared of dogs due to irresponsible owners letting their dogs run at them in parks and the street. Dogs wandering around off lead make me nervous and my children scared so I wouldn't go somewhere that welcomed this.

I take it these people freaked out by a dog sleeping under a table in a pub never go to mainland Europe on holiday? Places like Turkey or Portugal where the dogs just wander around walking themselves? The UK is far less dog friendly than many many places.

So many people in the UK with a stick UK their arse complaining about stuff that is unlikely to happen. Such a depressing cultural characteristic.

Sorry to shock you unfinished but for those who really can't stand dogs, holiday plans, trips to the supermarket, pub nights out, everything is considered in light of what might be there.

I've never holidayed in Portugal or Greece because of the amount of animals just wandering round.

Nice of you to be such an arsehole about people with very genuine fears or medical issues by saying they "have a stick UK [sic] their arse".

Why do dog owners always compare their animals to children?

Dogs smell. And drool. And beg. And bark at other dogs. It really puts me off a place if it allows dogs.

Young children dribble and have snotty noses. They run around cafes and get in the way. They scream and yell and tantrum. If they mess their nappies or have an accident or throw up on themselves, they smell too.

A well-behaved dog is far less of a problem than most toddlers in terms of mess and hygiene in a shop or cafe in my experience. If a dog is badly behaved, the business owner has the right to ask them to leave. The backlash if they asked the parents of a badly behaved toddler to leave would be ridiculous.

I'd rather go into a cafe with a few nicely behaved dogs under the tables than go in and see a group of mums and babies/toddlers. The former would encourage me in, the latter would put me off.

I don’t mind if there well behaved a dog that’s acceptable in public places like cafes is one that lays down is quiet and doesn’t bother anyone ...I hate yapping dogs if your dog can’t behave it really shouldn’t be taken out and bother other people or there dogs

Liquoricelake

Here we go again. MN is never happier when it's moaning about dogs

Yep and some people need to cool their jets and have a word with themselves LostInShoebiz why all the hostility, are you like this is RL

I'd rather see a sweet, friendly well behaved dog in a restaurant than kids screeching, playing boisterously and wiping their sticky, dirty hands over everything like in my local pub that's what keeps me from going back to my once lovely local, not the harmless dogs who have always been allowed in, who cause no bother at all.

I love being able to take my dog everywhere. However he is extremely well behaved and lies at our feet and is used to being out.

I'd much rather be surrounded by other people's dogs than their children if I'm honest. I've never had a dog run around my table screaming while it's owners ignore it. Or throw a massive tantrum or spend the entire time watching Peppa Pig full volume on a iPad.
BUT I do try to go to places than won't have many little children, because I know they annoy me.

YANBU

DM was on a flight a few months ago and an 'emotional support dog' did a huge shit which it then partially ate and rubbed the rest into the carpet and resulted in a lot of people heaving and complaining. The dog owner then became incredibly angry about the complaints and started verbally abusing other passengers and cabin crew. The dog became quite aggressive at this point and she was warned to control it or she'd be arrested. A member of the cabin crew then had to stand next to her seat for the remainder of the flight.

99% of dogs are lovely but when the owner is an entitled arse it's a nightmare.

In answer to the OP, businesses will be dog friendly if it is in their interests to do so. Whether thats' because they make money out of us dog owners, or whether they are dog lovers themselves. If the facility exists, you cant really blame doggy people for using them. If dogs arent under control or the owners do minging things like let their dog eat off their plates then they should be hoisted out. But for every dog friendly cafe i know of, there are about 15 that arent and the only shops that I have been allowed entry to with my dogs has been pets at home. Or the barbers and I make sure i ask first, because I do consider that not everyone likes dogs or can be around them.

What led to this happening? Demand. Is it unhygienic? Arguable. A hulking great wet dog shaking its wet fur on my bacon and brie baguette, yes. Other person in the restaurant sneezing over me, yes. Other humans and dogs can be equally disgusting.