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To ask if any of you know how to arrange a funeral in France? Quite urgent

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hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:08

My mother just told me that my uncle died six days ago and he was close to my mother, who now lives in Florida, but he wasn’t speaking with any of his other brothers and sisters. I am now helping with a large part of his funeral. My grandmother was buried about two hours outside of Paris and she had bought a funeral plot in the cemetery. Does anybody know how much this would cost? Also how much would it cost to transport him from Paris to two hours outside in the loiret since we think you should be buried near to my grandmother. My mothers brother who is in France is helping to do some of this, but I am the only other person who can help with arrangements and I don’t know how to do this at all. I’m really sad from my mother, I know how much he meant to her and knowing he was alone when he died is pretty horrible. Anyway, we’re trying our best to arrange something nice for him, since the service will be very very small, we don’t even know who his friends were, is there something nice that we could do after word? I really have no idea how to arrange a funeral. I will go on behalf of my mother since she can’t.

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InspectorIkmen · 26/08/2018 17:11

Have you considered getting in touch with the French Embassy? They'd probably be best placed to answer at least some of your questions

hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:12

And I know that probably doesn’t make much sense. I hope everyone could understand it. My mother and all of her family or friends, so house to be done there. French, sorry visually impaired and using dictation and I’m upset. It’s my great uncle I think, my mother’s uncle. Nobody will talk to him. And nobody will even go to Paris or he died to do anything for him except for my mothers brother.

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hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:13

Inspector, I don’t know if the French Embassy deals with this kind of thing do they? Because it’s family in France and not in the UK.

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Greenandcabbagelooking · 26/08/2018 17:15

The British Embassy in France might be able to help.

BirdsAndBlips · 26/08/2018 17:20

Can you speak French?
If he's been dead for 6 days he's already in Les Pompes Funebres somewhere right?

MissusGeneHunt · 26/08/2018 17:22

Can you contact the town Marie? From the little I know, I think they may assist in local births, marriages and deaths.

I hope you get it sorted OP, sorry for your loss.

hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:23

Yes I can speak French fluently. I need to ask my mother about that. She just found out today and told me. His family really have nothing to do with him. I don’t even know who found him, but they contacted my mothers brother since his number was in his room. Otherwise I think he may have ended up in a communal grave. Horrible thought.

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BirdsAndBlips · 26/08/2018 17:24

Je vois que tu parles français
Ton oncle est où ? S'il est mort chez lui, il a déjà du être transporté à la chambre funéraire et ils vont tout organiser si tu leur demandes. Par contre c'est cher, surtout s'il faut le transporter. Mais s'il est enterré dans un caveau familial peut être que ça n'entraînera pas de surcoût (sauf s'il n'y a plus de place et qu'il faut faire une réduction des corps)... encore une fois les pompes funèbres peuvent s'occuper de tout. Bon courage

hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:25

It’s not a holiday in France tomorrow is it? All of these bank holidays and things confuse me. I will contact people tomorrow. When my grandmother was buried, she was taken from Paris, so I think two different funeral companies handle that. My mother has wished for the same thing for my uncle. So I need to find out about this. I don’t know which mairie I should contact.

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BirdsAndBlips · 26/08/2018 17:27

Don't contact la mairie, contact les pompes funèbre where he died. Not a bank holiday tomorrow

hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:30

Merci birds, je m,inquete beaucoup pour lui et malheuresement personne ne s,ocupe de lui,

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mosessupposes · 26/08/2018 17:34

I'm sorry to hear about your great uncle. I have helped organise funerals in France.
He will be in the mortuary of the nearest hospital I should think.
You need to choose a pompes funebres, which is the undertakers. You can just pick the nearest one, or else you can go and visit a couple and see which one seems best to you. I appreciate that this is going to be difficult to do.
I'm not clear as to whether he died in Paris because he lived there? And perhaps those who were close to him live there too? Lorient is quite a way from Paris, more than two hours, if he was an elderly gentleman and those close to him are old too, it maybe that if you get his body transported to Lorient then you find yourself attending the funeral alone.
When you say your grandmother had a funeral plot, is there space for her brother there too? In order for him to be buried there, if there is space, then you need to find out who owns the plot now. If there is not space in the plot, then you need to find out whether you can get another.
A possible solution is, that in France you can bury an urn. So you could have the cremation in Paris, and have the ashes buried in the same cemetery. If they could be buried with your grandmother then this could be quite simple. To do this, you would need to apply to the town. There is no right to be buried anywhere other than where you live, but outside of Paris, spaces in cemeteries are often given to people who live locally for relative who do not. Perhaps this is an option for you.
In terms of cost, a very ball park figure is, 3000 euros for a cremation, 2000 euros to bury an urn. I don't know about burial really, because I've never looked into it.

mosessupposes · 26/08/2018 17:40

Si la mairie quand même, pour la concession, s'il y a quelque chose à payer ce n'est pas les pompes funèbres qui s'en occupent. Mais la mairie de là ou vous souhaitez l'enterrer et non pas la mairie du lieu de décès (quoi que si, pour le certificat du décès).
Bon courage, c'est compliqué même quand on est sur place.

hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:45

Thank you, that’s quite a good idea about the urn. That cemetery had a lot of space so I think it’s very likely that he can be there as well. He is from Paris, was living there, other relatives are spread out but they don’t contact him. My mother was very close to him though and can’t travel to France right now, even if we have something small, that’s OK. How much is the church fee for a very small service?

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LaDaronne · 26/08/2018 17:48

it's the Loiret, not Lorient, so the distance is right.

hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:49

Oui tout a fait, j essaie d avoir mon certificat de nationalite francais et ca veut de temp aussi, j attend depuis plus qu,un an,,,,

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hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 17:51

Yes, my grandmother is buried in st genevieve de bois And last time I went there there was still a lot of space in that cemetery. No I fully I can remember the train stop. You have to take a train from Paris and then take a taxi. Or a bus. Last time I went it was this Sunday and there were no buses. I don’t remember the train stop. It began with M.

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mosessupposes · 26/08/2018 18:17

Purée, j'ai mal lu, c'est d'autant plus honteux que je vais assez souvent à Orlèans, qui est dans le Loiret. Pour un service à l'église, il n'y a pas de tarif, selon mon mari qui se souvient que pour mon beau-père ils ont versé environ 100 euros (c'était en région parisienne) ça date. Pour ma belle mère nous n'avons pas fait à l'église.

mosessupposes · 26/08/2018 18:18

Montargis perhaps for the train?

hellokittymania · 26/08/2018 18:41

Oui c,est ca! Montargis! Merci,

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