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Help - driving licence revoked with immediate effect

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 11:36

Posting for traffic - help!

DH was diagnosed with sleep apnea a few months ago and informed the DVLA as instructed.

He now has an oxygen mask he wears at night which has improved his sleep dramatically.

He is currently driving his kids home from a trip to the other side of the country and I have received a letter from the DVLA saying his licence has been revoked as of immidiate effect from yesterday - WTAF?

He has NEVER fallen asleep while driving and he lives 150 miles away from us in the week so driving is essential.

He has to prove certain things to get his licence back but this is going to take time.

How the hell can they do this - no warning nothing.

Does anyone know if we can appeal?

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Original poster
LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 18:22

And (DH is Home and no longer driving!) we were saying that as the consultant advised him to tell the DVLA you would think he might have mentioned thatvis was very likely this would happen.

We are looking at National Express tickets for Monday as the children’s Mother is not willing to help.

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HopefullyAnonymous · 24/08/2018 18:23

So you let him drive the rest of the way then...

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 18:25

I didn’t “let” him do anything.

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XXcstatic · 24/08/2018 18:25

He has voluntarily surrendered his licence by informing the DVLA. That is very important & makes it much easier to get it back than if it had been taken off him. Look at the letter, OP - it will tell you how to contact the DVLA to apply for a new licence. The DVLA will then contact his consultant.

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 18:28

His consultant wrote in the letter with the diagnosis that he had no concerns about DH driving - think maybe DH should have sent a copy to the DVLA.

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YeTalkShiteHen · 24/08/2018 18:31

If he calls the DVLA maybe he could email the letter to them?

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 18:35

Yes maybe Wine

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PerfectPenquins · 24/08/2018 18:36

Was it really necessary to have snipe at the children’s mother. She’s not done anything and it is your husband ms responsibility to get them home.

Dungeondragon15 · 24/08/2018 18:40

Most people are missing the point. It isn't the letter that revokes his licence, it's having the medical condition.

That doesn't make sense considering that he can continue to drive while the DVLA investigate under section 88 if he has no reason to think they would revoke the license. In this case the consultant said he had no concerns so it is not the medical condition that has revoked the license it is the DVLA and therefore the letter rather than the medical condition.

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 18:40

Yes actually it was. She is more than happy for me to regularly do the trip but refuses to help her children see their father. IMO it’s both parents responsibility to transport the children.

Last month she said she would meet me halfway but then said she wouldn’t when I was en route - like she does every time but that’s a side issue I agree - I’m a bit pissed off and panicking and times like this highlight people’s selfishness.

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YeTalkShiteHen · 24/08/2018 18:41

On the plus side, it does sound like a mistake rather than a long term revocation, especially since he has a letter stating his condition is controlled enough for him to drive.

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess · 24/08/2018 18:42

Was it really necessary to have snipe at the children’s mother. She’s not done anything and it is your husband ms responsibility to get them home. Is it? How do you know that, unless the OP has listed the terms of their access agreement? Which she hasn't.

the children’s Mother is not willing to help. Well she might be stirred into action if they stay with you for a bit then.

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 18:46

OhDearGodLookAtThisMess

They have already been with us for two weeks Grin

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safariboot · 24/08/2018 19:01

OP, the next thing you need to do is get the car insured or SORNed. If your DH was the main driver the car no longer has valid insurance and it's an offence for it to be on the road without insurance, even if it's just parked. So sort that out now.

If you or someone else was the main driver then the insurance will be fine, just get DH taken off from being a named driver.

Walkingdeadfangirl · 24/08/2018 19:05

His license has been revoked. So you are gambling on whether on not he would get in trouble if he was stopped, your gambling on whether or not he is insured if he had an accident. But if something happens you will have to fight it out after the event you just cant be sure the defence of 'I didn't know' will work.

But to say How the hell can they do this - no warning nothing. is nonsense. Why the hell did you think you were informing DVLA about his condition, if not for them to deliberate on revoking his license.

He would have known full well that falling asleep whilst driving was a side effect of sleep Apnoea. And he would have known full well why he had to inform DVLA. He should have waited for them to determine if he was keeping his licence before going on such a long car journey.

ExileOnMNStreet · 24/08/2018 19:08

"But you are unfit to drive if you have uncontrolled epilepsy so are not in the same position as OP's DH. I don't think that OP is "downplaying" the situation when she says that he should be able to drive. Clearly if he is not suffering from sleepiness his license should not have been revoked. Impossible to know whether it was his mistake or theirs but either way I'm not surprised that OP is upset and arguing with those who keep stating the obvious."

Dungeon I know this thread isn't about me, but the point I was trying to make is that I believe I should be safe to drive - my seizures are nocturnal and I have never had a waking one. I'm not likely to be driving in my sleep, but the DVLA are insistent that I cannot drive. It's shit, but it's what it is. It also doesn't matter that I can't walk properly and rely on my car or need to transport my DC, the DVLA don't care how inconvenient it is - if there is a risk there they assess and decide. It's not up to me and it's not up to my doctors, we could give an opinion and DVLA will consider it but it's up to them and that's what OP doesn't seem to get. She can't say (as she has done) her DH is safe to drive, it's not up to her - or to him!

Isleepinahedgefund · 24/08/2018 19:14

Regardless of how safe you think he is, the situation at the moment is that he does not have a license. If he drives, his insurance will be void, and he will be committing an offence. You can’t just say oh, it’s inconvenient for me to get the bus, I’ve decided I’m safe to drive and so I’m going to keep driving.

It is what it is, and you have to jump through the hoops to rectify the situation.

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 19:17

He isn’t driving.

I opened a letter when he was already driving home.

He now has no intention of driving until he gets his licence back.

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meadowmeow · 24/08/2018 19:27

get the car insured or SORNed. If your DH was the main driver the car no longer has valid insurance and it's an offence for it to be on the road without insurance, even if it's just parked.

SORN has got nothing to do with insurance. It is a statutory off road notification that you can make, of your car is off the road, so you do t have to pay tax.

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 19:28

We don’t have anywhere to put the car anyway Sad

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meadowmeow · 24/08/2018 19:28

*dont

ExileOnMNStreet · 24/08/2018 19:31

Can you drive the car lady? If you can, you will still need to change from named driver to main driver temporarily, and tell them DH has had licence revoked.

My insurers wanted to charge me £££ to cancel my insurance Shock which really fucked me off, under the circs! Eventually they waived it for me, but I knew I would be off the road min 12 months.

It's also worth seeing if he can get a free travel pass in the meantime but I think it's only for long term driving suspensions in our area.

placemats · 24/08/2018 19:34

We don’t have anywhere to put the car anyway

OP, you are hard work.

You come across as overly critical, lazy and selfish.

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LadyRussell · 24/08/2018 19:35

I can drive it and am a named driver - but I don’t like driving it Grin my car is nicer.

He lives where he works so during the week it’s not a huge issue (apart from seeing his kids mid week) it’s the weekends that are the huge issue for us.

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JustWrong · 24/08/2018 19:39

How the hell can they do this - no warning nothing.

To potentially save lives Hmm