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AIBU to suffer like this

28 replies

overwhenitsover · 23/08/2018 10:06

Back Story:
I have been with DP for 5 years and we have ds who is 3yo. I also have dd from prev relationship who is 10yo.

I have always had concerns that dp shows zero sympathy or empathy and lacks basic social skills. He is very needy and not very independent. I have long suspected that he has undiagnosed dyslexia/ autism/ aspergers but he refuses to seek help. (he does have other symptoms backing up my theory but this part is not so relevant)

A few years ago partner was involved in a multi car collision in which two people died. He saw these people crushed and dead and I immediately offered support. In the months that followed he never mentioned it or addressed it and if I did he just seemed bored by the subject and uninterested. I knew that I would personally have been affected intensely by this but accepted he is not the same as me.

Anyway 2 years ago my dd was diagnosed with serious illness (almost life threatening during some stages of treatment) again dp asked no questions, was uninterested in my thoughts/ feelings. (nc with dd biological dad so i struggled alone) He did care solely for ds whilst I was away in hospital with dd but that's all, people thought it was odd but i justa ccepted it, I guess I was too busy to notice.

When dd had 3 months left of treatment, I invited some friends over for a drink, I got too drunk from not eating and went to bed. dp had sex with one of the guests and I knew he had, I could feel it the next day but he denied this for a week. She was talking to me with her knees all scraped saying she fell off our wall. Anyway she admitted it and I finally had my evidence, he said sorry. He left. I took him back.

Ive stayed with him and now I feel completely empty, no love or affection or conversation. No sympathy or empathy and I did it all for my kids. I still live all this every day and question why I have done this for two years.
Anyway, last week I found out he has a secret gambling habit, £500 a month on average. I confronted him, he says sorry and then begs for forgiveness and I accept as usual. Except last night I lost my s* and kicked him out. He thinks i'm crazy and we will be ok. Am I crazy? Could we make it work? Will anyone want a single mum with two dc?
For what its worth, I own the house solely with around 50k equity, work part time but on a good salary as a finance manager and own my own car which is a really old thing worth 1k but at least I have no debts.

I feel like I need a leader, I have lost my way and I have lost who I used to be. I feel quite alone and i'm starting to feel envious of happy families around me and I feel embarassed that I've kept this act up for years. I think people pity me as the lady with the sick kid whos partner slept with her mate.

I'm actually quite well liked with a large group of really good friends but I've just never felt able to admit how s* i feel to them.

Where do i go from here? Im sat crying at my desk, he's calling begging me to take him back, saying he will change/ get help etc. Saying he can't cope without me. The guilt i feel is immense and i feel like I am suffering yet I have done nothing wrong.

(btw dd is fully recovered and unlikely to suffer again)

OP posts:
Gobbychops · 23/08/2018 11:04

Hello op I didn’t want to leave your post unanswered, I don’t have any good advice as I’ ve not been in your position but I don’t think that your partner will ever change, you and your children deserve more.He is just using you, he showed you what you meant to him by sleeping with your friend. Do not take him back, someone will want a lady with two children and you can have a happy life. Good luck.

HollowTalk · 23/08/2018 11:15

Oh blimey, OP, he sounds really awful. And what a great "friend" you have, too.

You have no choice. Cheating, gambling, no empathy... he's absolutely appalling.

Thank goodness you own the house. Stay strong now. Stop thinking any man is better than no man - that's the problem here, I think.

ThatLibraryMiss · 23/08/2018 11:18

Will anyone want a single mum with two dc?

There are worse things than being a single mum. One is being in a loveless relationship with a bloke who seems unable to care for anyone other than himself.

Well done for kicking him out. Now block him.

Feefeetrixabelle · 23/08/2018 11:19

I’m glad you DD is better.

Why are you so worried about being without this man when he’s there is sounds like your alone anyway. It doesn’t matter what he may or may not have diagnosis wise his current behaviour doesn’t make you feel loved or supported. A vibrator and a dog for cuddles would give you more than this man.

Being a single mum won’t put the right guy off but life isn’t about more than that.

Sack him off and leave him sacked. You deserve better.

Feefeetrixabelle · 23/08/2018 11:20

And as for the paranoia about what people think behind your back- if people aren’t saying it to your face then they aren’t saying it. Rumours have a habit of getting back to you so no one is saying anything.

maxthemartian · 23/08/2018 11:22

He sounds absolutely awful. Even before you got to the part about cheating I thought you'd be better off without him. That plus the gambling makes it a no brainer. He adds nothing good to your life and plenty of negatives.

Merryoldgoat · 23/08/2018 11:26

He is AWFUL - you are best off without him. You cannot be happy with such a person and you can support yourself fine.

Tell everyone what a shit he is if they express ‘you can work through it’ - don’t allow his memory to be better than he is.

‘Actually he was awful. He slept with my friend, he gambled secretly and treats my daughter badly’ should shut most people up.

Lastly, your self worth needs to come from within, not whether you’re attractive to some man. It doesn’t matter if you stay single forever - you can be happy alone.

Dadsbigsausages · 23/08/2018 11:27

Be your own leader.

People probably do feel sorry for you as the woman who's partner slept with her mate, in their own house. And then took him back.

You really don't want to be with this man. You have kicked him out. Great! You've done the hard part! Decision made, now own it! He's a cheater, liar, out of control gambler and all round mill stone around your neck.

Your life is going to be so much better now.

knittingdad · 23/08/2018 11:29

Change is very hard, but it is possible.

The question then is whether you want to try and help him change, or you feel that he's had enough time and chances already and you need to change yourself by striking out on your own.

I read this book and always feel like it would be helpful for people in your situation.
www.amazon.co.uk/Too-Good-Leave-Bad-Stay/dp/0718141776?tag=mumsnetforum-21

GrumpyCatIsMySpiritAnimal · 23/08/2018 11:29

OP, you did the right thing leaving him. You deserve so much better than this.
Don’t feel guilty for kicking him out, he evidently doesn’t feel guilty for cheating on you in your own home or not supporting you when your DD was ill or for gambling.
He sounds like a nightmare, you and your DC will have a lovely life without him Flowers

TheLastNigel · 23/08/2018 11:30

Please for your own sake and that of your children, get rid of this man.
You don't need to settle for this-a life alone would be infinitely better-having a partner isn't the be all and end all and in this case-it's actually Making your life worse.

HopeClearwater · 23/08/2018 11:30

Will anyone want a single mum with two dc

Two blokes down and you’re thinking about another? Do the right thing by yourself and strike out on your own. You deserve better than your current life. Good luck. You can do it!

Aquamarine1029 · 23/08/2018 11:32

You have made the best decision of your life by getting rid of him. Don't look back.

Beanbag12 · 23/08/2018 11:35

Please please don’t take him back. I know the guilt and anguish you are feeling, but you were 100% right to get rid. He’s just going to drag you down more and more if you take him back and next time you ask him to leave it will just get harder. He adds nothing to your life. You sound like a lovely person and you could have a wonderful life with your 2 DC. Don’t worry about finding someone else at the moment, that will come once you’re happy with yourself and the only way you can do that is to be single and work out who you are again and your likes and interests. Good luck, hope you stay strong.

MIdgebabe · 23/08/2018 11:36

Well your 2 dc will want you, so that's 2 people already.

I was a single mum for a while. It was much better than being with a crap man.

Now happily married for over 10 years to a much better man . He has just decided to clean the bathroom ( off hous own bat) whilst I am laying on the sofa feeling sorry for myself and a bit poorly.

Brambleboo · 23/08/2018 11:42

Glad to hear your daughter is better.

You know what, OP, you sound like a perfectly capable woman without help from anyone else. You own a home, managed to get through your child's life threatening illness, have no debts...You don't need a man. And that's a great starting point for your life without that awful hanger-on.

Stand by your decision and do not allow him back into your life. You might not think it yet but you're more than capable o your own. When you realise that and know you don't need to rely on anyone, you might just find a man will enter your life and it'll be for the right reasons.

kaitlinktm · 23/08/2018 11:47

he's calling begging me to take him back ... Saying he can't cope without me. The guilt i feel is immense

Even now it is all about him - he can't cope without you - not that he will be more of a support to you. Even if he gets help with his gambling habit, he can never change the person he is - with a real lack of empathy for whatever reason. He is assuming you will take him back whatever he does, because hitherto, that is what you have done - don't do it again, he will be a dead weight around your neck for ever. Why should you feel guilty because a grown adult says he can't manage without you? Of course he can - he is just regretting his easy life with you. Don't be surprised if he finds a replacement mug fairly quickly. That's how much he really cares.

I think you will find that your real friends (not the one who slept with him) will be supportive - and that this might not be the total surprise to them that you think it is.

You don't need a leader - friends and family can advise and help and then you decide for yourself, it's what you've been doing all these years anyway - now do it without this useless baggage.

overwhenitsover · 23/08/2018 11:55

Thank you all for your replies. I was truly shocked that just those few snippets of info made you all 100% sure I was better off without him. Theres so many more awful traits he has, not physically abusive but quite angry/ aggressive (never in front of dc so it can be controlled)
As well as admitting that he and his mum talk about me together. (not sure why, im not that interesting)
3rd time weve had gambling issue
only aware of one cheating
lies about lots of things

hollowtalk- thank you- she wasn't actually a friend- she was my ndn. my friends are true friends, she was a skank I chatted to being neighbourly. I don't even want to think about another man to be honest but in the last 16 years I have only had the two relationships. so being alone scares me a little.

feefeetrixabelle- currently searching online to buy my first ever vibrator, does everyone have one these days?

Knittingdad- I read that book last year and found it useful but obviously I'm just one of those doormat people who can't make firm decisions.

No idea how to bold peoples names, only usually comment on MN, never post.

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DemocracyDiesInDarkness · 23/08/2018 12:00

OP, my friend split up with her husband in fairly similar circumstances (not the friend-shagging or car crash though...).

He'd really been out of their relationships for years; uncommunicative, unresponsive, selfish, not a hands-on parents, etc. Of course, the minute she put him out, he was so sorry, going to change, blah blah blah. None of it ever happened.

He sees his daughter maybe once a week because my friend forces him to make it happen. And she, while finding it hard to be the only adult around, says the house is much happier, and she finds it easier to parent without him dragging the atmosphere down all the time.

Don't take him back this time! A cheating, gambling shitbag? NOPE.

AnyFucker · 23/08/2018 12:04

You would certainly be crazy to take him back

He brings nothing positive to your life. Nothing but years stretching ahead of stress and worry.

You will be fine on your own. You have been carrying this complete loser. Now is your time...just you and ypour kids is all you need.

overwhenitsover · 23/08/2018 12:15

DemocracyDiesInDarkness- did your friend keep taking him back before the final time?

kaitlinktm- Thank you for taking the time to write that. It really hit home just how much he uses me for everything. He is a successful man but he wasn't when I met him. I have helped him build a successful business. Our bills and mortgage are around £1500 pcm, he gives me £400 hence why he can afford a gambling addiction.

I worry in secret that all relationships have issues and that i'm dreaming of a fake life that doesn't exist. Im certainly not one of those people who creates a fake social media life and I can spot the ones who do but it stil makes me think that maybe im being too dramatic.

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Feefeetrixabelle · 23/08/2018 12:19

I don’t think everyone has a vibrator it’s a very personal choice as to whether it’s aomething you want to use- I just think it’s more socially acceptable to own and talk about having one. I’m quietly confident you’ll use one once and then realise it’s way less drama than the man child and will block him. And I see you talking yourself down on these threads- what your ex did wrong was what he did nothing to do with anything you did. He’s a gambler who hasn’t changed. He’s a cheat who may or may not have changed. He’s verbally aggressive. He’s not the one. He’s not even 1% of being the one. So set him free to find the right person and you enjoy your time

AnyFucker · 23/08/2018 12:20

You are not being dramatic enough, love. You sound like you have been far too passive and accepting of some fucking shitty treatment from him.

user1494670108 · 23/08/2018 12:25

Sounds like you have everything's olce for a great life, good job, House, Kids, friends.
The only thing wrong is the twat you've allowed to treat you this way.
Get rid and stay strong

JustHavinABreak · 23/08/2018 12:29

Someday you will look back on this day and this moment at your desk as the first step. That first golden f**k-it moment when you saw the light and your future for the amazing thing it's going to be. You may or may not have a partner ahead (though personally I think you sound amazing and you're gonna be snapped up sooooo quickly!) but either way you won't have that toe rag 😀 He's not sorry. He's just sorry he's finally been caught out. No empathy in the face of a sick child? No reaction to two road deaths? Sleeps around behind your back? Lies? Gambles? You're better than that. Teach your kids that they are too xxx