is this legal?!

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DD2 who is 13 going into Year 9 has a friend who is MTF transgender. She has a lot of friends and I don't have a problem with who they are. If they're nice and polite, that's fine with me.

However her friend turned 13 last week and for her present her mum went on eBay and ordered her transsexual sex change hormone pills that PERMANENTLY change your voice, chest size etc!

Her friend has been identifying as transgender for only 6 months! I'm in so much shock that this is even legal, considering it's only been 6 months and at such a young age.

I seriously doubt it as it isn’t prescribed medicine and will probably come under the administering of noxious substances laws that you use when drug dealers inject other drug dealers

Why the fuck are they getting something like this from eBay?!

Could the child be bluffing/bravado/attention seeking. No sane parent would give their child body altering medication bought from eBay.

I’d the kid isn’t on the wind up then this could be really dangerous

I'd be very surprised if any of the stuff you get on ebay has any effect at all, it's all snake oil. Are you sure you're getting the full story? It is possible to begin transitioning below 16, but legitimate medications at a therapeutic strength will only be available on prescription.

As far as I'm aware the child hasn't been in contact with the local GO or anything.

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Personally, I'd be reporting to SS for child abuse.

If you have reason to believe this is true you should contact social services. Feeding children serious medication sourced from the internet is child abuse, and incredibly dangerous.

Just double checked, the sale of prescription medication is banned on ebay.

www.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/prohibited-restricted-items/medicine-healthcare-products-policy?id=4322&st=3&pos=1&query=Medicine%20and%20healthcare%20products%20policy

Either the mum has bought some hocus pocus pills that will have no effect, or they're making up stories.

How do I attatch a picture? I have a screenshot of the one they ordered.

I’m all for supporting transgender people but it seems wildly dangerous to give a child medicine of any kind ordered online - is this just a kid showing off, or do you think it’s true? I don’t know about the legalities but it’s very worrying

Hormones won't alter the voice, it's speech therapy or surgery which give feminine characteristics to a male voice.

Like Bombardier, I think this will prove to be expensive snake oil!

I think you need to get in touch with social services, you can report annonymously through the NSPCC

Nobody should be buying prescription medication from the internet. certainly not giving it to a child. People have died from internet pills

This is the kind of thing you can buy, just a herbal supplement.

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HERBAL-FEMINIZER-SEX-CHANGE-TABLETS-female-hormone-breast-enlargement-180-pills/153120131291?hash=item23a6abc8db:g:Gs0AAOSwCU1YuErp

Transitioning requires oestrogen and anti androgens. Whilst you can get some oestrogen from natural sources, they wouldn't be sufficient to be of therapeutic value. As far as I'm aware there is no naturally occurring anti androgen product.

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Yes, I'm really sure that a parent went and bought powerful drugs from the internet for their just turned 13 year old before even taking them to a gp.

Someone's telling lies.

sure they are permanent? i could be wrong but most hormones have to be taken daily, like the contraceptive pills does,

found this link on google, top of the list when searching "buy hormone pills"

transit.org.uk/hrt-internet.html

Parents can do really fucking stupid things. I wouldnt assume it IS true, but neither would I assume it isn't.

Somebody is lying here. Could be the trans child, could be their parent, could be the eBay seller, could be the OP

As we can’t verify any of it, it’s rather a pointless post.

I don’t think any sane person would advocate buying medication via eBay, regardless of what kind it is! Nor would most people advocate hormone therapy for a trans person who is under 16, as per NHS guidelines. So pointless thread altogether

How do you know any of this? We've just had firsthand experience of a 14 year old stringing mates along on messaging apps that she was self-harming/overdosing and all sorts of other stuff. Turned out this wasn't happening at all.

Hm. Well the mother and I do know each other and occasionally bump into each other. I found out yesterday when I saw her in Asda she told me all about it and shown me which ones she purchased!

Turns out a lot of stuff like this is happening since DD2 had a similar experience with one of her "friends"

A few years ago we had a regular poster on FWR whose DC had gender dysphoria. She left Mermaids, the lobby group for transgender children, partly because some parents at the meetings were swapping tips about how to obtain hormones from dodgy private doctors and websites. So yes, it does happen, though you'd hope parents had more sense.

Is this not a safeguarding concern? NSPCC phone call required?