To think I will have to resign and just wait until...

[Metoodear]

Dd3 starts primary school

I work 3 days a week and do so because I just don’t have child care either end of the week
Dd is adopted so I can’t just stick her with anyone she has extra needs my childmider has looked after serval adopted children before

The issue is my company keep automatically booking me on courses

I have just come back from annual leave to find I have been booked on a corse on Friday

I can’t cover Friday in terms of childcare as I don’t work Fridays my childmider is full we have no family support and no one we could ask and dh has used his whole allowance for this year

My boss says I have to go on it but I can’t I just can’t

I think it’s out of order to automatically book me on courses and for my boss to say well I can’t just inbook you I have to get the director to unbook anyone with a written email if she bloody checked with me first she wouldn’t need to

Also their is the issue of Christmas dh os not allowed to book Christmas off it appears nor am I so knowing we both can’t work Christmas and again childmider is closed for two weeks I told my boss up front I have been trying to work sundays as we are always short sundays and save up my days in leui to cover Christmas I have already worked one on exchange for Christmas Day as she was desperate however she still hasn’t done the paperwork for it and from what she is now saying seems like she is back tracking

It’s reallu stressing me out wanting to resign and look for a dinner lady job in a school in 12 months when dd3 starts primary school

"if you work mon-fri, 9-5, and your boss booked you on a training course on a Sat or Sun, do you still think it's reasonable to be expected to go"

Just asked our head of HR and they said that legally, yes, it's reasonable.

Reasonable notice needs to be given though and I don't think it was in the OP's case but that's by the by.

In that case I'd definitely consider agency work. You would be able to choose when you work.
Healthcare workers are treated like shit by far too many employers in this country.

NannyCrumb - how does that work if you are contracted to work at a 2nd job on the day the training is scheduled.

Many people combine 2 part time jobs. The other employer might not be quite so understanding if you kept asking to change your days to accommodate the other employer.

I get this all the time, I have 2 part time jobs. My boss at one job is always saying 'I need you to come in on X day - you can claim overtime.' Er, no I can't because I have back to back meetings in my other job on that day!

They aren't supposed to discriminate with regard to your parental obligations & child care etc, or break your contracted 'set' 3days. But it will probably be argued that legally required mandatory training with plenty of notice may result in flexing your days. A lot of contracts have the Caveat: "& any other duties seen as reasonably required by the role" as a get out for changing the goal posts. Check your contract.

@hallamoo

All the people saying that if training happens on a certain day then the OP is expected to go....if you work mon-fri, 9-5, and your boss booked you on a training course on a Sat or Sun, do you still think it's reasonable to be expected to go?

Yes, with enough notice. I have traveled for work several times on a Sunday recently to enable an early start on the Monday, I'm contracted Monday to Friday. I have also attended weekend seminars. It would depend on the circumstances, I can either take back TOIL, claim overtime or neither. For example if it is possible for me to leave home at 5am and get to a meeting on a Monday I can choose to do this, or my employer will cover a hotel, mileage and subsistence expenses so I can travel on the Sunday. I wouldn't get TOIL or overtime in that situation at it's my choice.

FASH84, travelling the day before is different though. If you were regularly expected to work weekends when your contracted hours were mon-fri. You'd understandably be a bit miffed.

@hallamoo I was at a conference this weekend, and have worked at least ten other Saturdays or Sundays (or both) this year, not including travel days. Also it didn't seem like a regular occurrence for OP just when there is mandatory training. I do think her employer should give her a lot more notice and book her onto events on her working days where possible.

@hallamoo

"how does that work if you are contracted to work at a 2nd job on the day the training is scheduled. "

I assume you make a decision and the result is you might be let go from one of the potions if you're failing to perform. I asked my friend. I don't pretend to know the legalities.

I don't mean to be offensive but someone working 2 part time jobs is unlikely to need to attend training in order to stay relevant.

Last week, my employer arranged a training event which required all staff to attend. The date was a Monday.

They got so many emails from p/t staff who don't work on Mondays that they've now rearranged it for a Tuesday.

Why can't all employers be as reasonable as mine?

@Lakie

What about staff who don't work on a Tuesday?

NannyCrumb - I find that extremely offensive!

I don't mean to be offensive but someone working 2 part time jobs is unlikely to need to attend training in order to stay relevant.

How is that NOT offensive?

Rang ACAS they have said because my contacted says 20 hours but not the exact days it’s tricky

However because tues Wednesday Thursday are the only days I ever worked they would struggle to try and claim those weren’t the days they agreed

DH aid upset with me its not my fault I not sure what he wants me to do I don’t have anyone I can ask to watch the girls
My childminder is in turkey

This is just to much stress I think I going to resign and look for a dinner lady job

If I stay I still have to work out what the fuck I supposed to do for the two weeks over Christmas
I have no childcare for then either

Why does your child being adopted been she can only be looked after by one specific child minder?

Or is it the additional needs? I’m just confused why her being adopted affects childcare and it sounds like it would be really helpful to widen your options.

Girlfrommars77

Tbh if you ever adopted you would understand

My child has been abused and neglected in the worst ways she cannot deal with a institutional setting

She needs 1.1 and a responseive care giver

Not somone who is on work experience
Not somone who has 5 other children to watch
Not somone who is paid peanuts
And not the 10 direent somones

She needs the one person who knows her who has understands attachment
Somone who she feels very much loves her
She needs a home setting we’re she feels safe

It’s not a simple as just bunging them in anywhere many adopters never make it back to work after adoption