To think this is really weird behaviour?

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I can’t think of a good enough reason to warrant it.

We have a new family move next door.

A family, mum, dad two kids, boy and a girl both under 7. They are Indian, and we have met the grandparents on one side, who came round to introduce the family, as they don’t speak great English. I’m mentioning this in case there is a cultural reason/festival I’m ignorant of - not because I’m a daily mail reading gammon head 🙃.

Anyway. Over the last couple of weeks, we’ve been woken up by the entire family in the front garden, talking loudly at like 11pm -12.30am. We were a bit as the kids were out there too, and it seemed a bit late for them to be out, but it’s school holidays. We have an 18 month old, so not sure on what’s acceptable on older kids bedtimes.

However over the last three nights, dh has been woken up by them, including the kids at around 3.30am

Am I being ott or is this really not on? I did wonder if one or both of the parents work weird hours, but even if they did it seems a bit much to let the kids keep the same anti social hours

This seems weird! I am the grouchiest person ever when being woken up so I'd have been over there already. Why not return the favour at 7am when they're all midway through their sleep? haha

Maybe they are celebrating Eid?

Yeah maybe they're celebrating? Who knows? If it continues when they go back to school today though then that's not on

What are they actually doing at 3.30?

I don't know why I typed 'today' in my previous sentence apologies!

Eid starts tomorrow so I can’t imagine it would be connected to that and prayer times don’t fit with the times you suggest (if they are even Muslim).

Doesn't really matter why they are doing it does it? surely you just politely ask them to keep the noise down after 10pm or 11pm?
I imagine they don't realise they are disturbing you.

Ooooh is it Eid now?

Mind you the lateness has been going on for weeks...

They are just chatting, the kids jumping around, probably not making anymore noise than kids do normally, but at 3am in a quiet street it sounds very loud.

I’m baffled why in the front garden too - they’ve spent ages doing up the back garden, and it’s much nicer than a tiny courtyard

... just read back my last post and realised what a nosy fucker I sound

My awesome neighbours are Indian, I'm pretty sure they don't all stand around the garden at 3:30am but if they do they are nice and quiet about it. Maybe I should thank them?

Spark up a friendly conversation and enquire. Surely just being like "welcome to the neighbourhood how're you settling in?" And then mention "thought we heard you up till early hours...?" Not rudely, they may explain

stargazing? It's the tail end of the Perseids...if you are somewhere with dark skies and little light pollution maybe it's a novelty to see stars if they have come from a big city?
I know I pine for twinkly stars even if we are only away for a few days to the big bad city! :o

Gosh, that's weird behaviour and also very antisocial, as it should be obvious that you need to keep noise down to a minimum after a certain hour. But some people are very thoughtless.

Are they taking the chance to eat during the hours of darkness? I thought Ramadan had finished, but I've just looked it up, and August 21st is the 1st day of Eid al--Ahda (Feast of Sacrifice). Why not ask them nicely what they are celebrating/

I'd say it has to be the Perseids. Prime viewing over the last while, if you can stay up and if you have a fairly clear sky. I'm so jealous. I have had neither the ability to stay up nor clear skies :(

It’s not Ramadan! Eid is tomorrow and it’s the hajj one not the Ramadan one. They may not even be Muslim? Maybe just late nights and family visits with the summer holidays. But no harm in dropping it into conversation that you’ve heard them having a late night as a P.P said - see if they give any explanation!

No idea why they could be out there so late. Could you mention the noise level to them? Even if there is a reason, they shouldn’t be making excess noise past 11pm.

I’d agree this is not typical behaviour of anyone, regardless of ethnicity or religion. For what it’s worth half my family are Muslim and as Firawla has pointed out it’s not Eid-al-fitr tomorrow which is the big celebration after Ramadan, it’s Eid-al-adha which is much more low key and about charity/sacrifice and the end of Hajj for many. So it’s nothing to do with that and I’m not sure from your original post if they are even Muslim!

When we visit our family abroad we do sometimes stay up chatting after midnight...that applies to both the “Asian” side of the family and the “European or Western” side of the family because we don’t see each other often. Ditto when we visit friends from overseas or vice versa. However, this would likely be in the privacy of our homes, not in the garden and certainly loud enough to be disturbing people.

So...it’s not a cultural thing. It’s just a case of perhaps being a bit inconsiderate or even unaware of the fact you can hear them. All you can do is politely let them know you are being disturbed and ask them to keep the noise down.

Certainly not loud enough

Are they taking the chance to eat during the hours of darkness? I thought Ramadan had finished, but I've just looked it up, and August 21st is the 1st day of Eid al--Ahda (Feast of Sacrifice). Why not ask them nicely what they are celebrating

In their front garden?