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To wonder why police in the US still think they can get away with it

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Metoodear · 20/08/2018 14:49

So my son has introduced me to insta gram

And I have been watching a lot of these videos of the police in US

Black people have cameras now surly the police still don’t think they can carry on home are the days when people are not sure about black people being brutalised

It’s their for all to see

I even saw one of a white man being arrested shouting your treating me like a black person 😮your treating me how you treat them

Also a new thing that’s started happening I am not that familiar with as a black British person

Is white people weaponising the police against black people

For example a black teenager falls asleep on the collage halls and has the police called on him when he asked for a explanation he is told you didn’t look the sort who belonged here Confused

But it just gets filmed

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RedHelenB · 20/08/2018 14:51

It's awful but sadly all the exposure via the media doesn't seem to come to anything.

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Metoodear · 20/08/2018 14:54

I am starting to see that people are being sacked due to there rasict behaviour

But it just shows how little fucks they give as they must know people are filming

My sons black I told him if you get stoped ever make sure his friends are filming

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IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 20/08/2018 14:54

They’ve been emboldened by the massive trump following and publicity. They’ve elected a thick racist as their president. He’s getting away with all his shit, of course they can get away with what they’re doing.

Metoodear · 20/08/2018 14:57

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan

They’ve been emboldened by the massive trump following and publicity. They’ve elected a thick racist as their president. He’s getting away with all his shit, of course they can get away with what they’re doing.sorry I really don’t belive this at all just watched NWA film this was happening on the 60s right through to Obama the difference is black people have phones with cameras

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Metoodear · 20/08/2018 14:59

.sorry I really don’t belive this at all just watched NWA film this was happening on the 60s right through to Obama the difference is black people have phones with cameras

This happens to Rodney king in the late 80s somebody happened to have a car corder can you imagine if black people had phones then

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araiwa · 20/08/2018 15:00

But they are getting away with. Most of the time. Like gunning down innocent black people whove done nothing wrong and mostly nothing happens

woman11017 · 20/08/2018 15:05

I follow www.theroot.com/ to learn more about this. Many of the police related stories are gut wrenching, often involving children. Does anyone know if there is a similiar publication to 'The Root' in britain?

IfIWasABirdIdFlyIn2ACeilingFan · 20/08/2018 15:07

Forgive me OP, I thought your title said “why police in the US still think they can get away with it” Hmm

DGRossetti · 20/08/2018 15:08

As former NYC mayor Rudy Giuliani opined today, "truth isn't always truth".

If people are convinced that the white police can't possibly do any wrong, then no amount of video, audio, or interpretive dance is gong to change their minds.

One prediction of the future - that increased video evidence would reduce crime and antisocial behaviour - has missed by a mile. Mainly because prejudices are tougher than the truth.

TheVeryHungryDieter · 20/08/2018 15:24

Well, they are getting away with it. No one has been convicted of murder yet. And racism is protected speech under the First Amendment, so there's nothing to stop it becoming endemic. It's gone on for a long time. When I was in school my dad collected National Geographic magazines and there was an article then featuring a mixed race couple saying that Britain (bad enough as it may have been in the 90s) was much more accepting of their relationship than the US (their home country) and that's why they'd chosen to move here. (I didn't live in the UK as a child so I was amazed at this, because I knew the US had many black citizens but I didn't know that about the UK. We weren't big telly watchers or I probably would have seen it.)

It's still the way today, it seems. One of the school dads (Black) was working in the US for the summer, and the plan was for the whole family to go out and join him once school broke up. A couple of weeks after he got out there, he called his wife (white) and said "don't come, it's really bad here, we'll get too much attention as a mixed couple when we go out as a family and I don't want the kids exposed to that." Heartbreaking. I felt bad for the small children who weren't going to be able to spend their holiday with their daddy because they'd face racial abuse. How do you even begin to explain that to your babies?

OP you should follow Shaun King if you don't already. He's a founder of the Black Lives Matter campaign and what he posts and shares will break your heart and enrage you, But it needs to be witnessed and protested.

woman11017 · 22/08/2018 13:51

@JasonOverstreet
If you like me just a little bit, PLEASE take 4 minutes to watch this. It’s not violent, but it’s the best video I’ve seen that shows the reality of being a black male in America dealing with police officers. It’s suffocating. Take note, @nfl.
twitter.com/JasonOverstreet/status/1031660414038245376

AnguaUberwaldIronfoundersson · 22/08/2018 14:07

@Metoodear

Do you watch Greys Anatomy? There was a heartbreaking episode where a young black teen died because the police shot first and asked questions later. (S14Ep10 "Personal Jesus")

The conversation that the character has with her son (also a black teen) at the end is just heart breaking:

Tuck: I am William George Bailey Jones. I'm 13 years old. And I have nothing to harm you.
Bailey: That's good, baby. You always have to show the police where your hands are. And always say what you're doing before you do it.
Ben: Be in control of your emotions. Be polite and and respectful. Yeah, don't fight back. Don't talk back. Do not make any sudden movements. Remember, your only goal is to get home safely. If you get detained, don't sign anything or or write anything. Wait for a parent before you talk. And if your white friends are saying things or mouthing off, know that you cannot. You can't go climbing through windows, play with toy guns, throw rocks. And you cannot ever run away from them, no matter how afraid you are. Never, never never run. [THUNDER RUMBLES] Everything that we're saying to you we're saying because we want you to come home again. We want you to grow up to be anything and everything that you want to be. Do you hear me? You are amazing. You are perfect. And we want you to stay that way.

Its one of those moments in TV that just rips you apart because you know that some kids don't come home due to the inherent racism in the police force Sad

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