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Original poster

To wonder why the hell a Porn 'Star' who knowingly had sex with a married man is being given air time?

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DiscombobulatedDiane · 20/08/2018 13:30

I mean FFS!

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NaughtToThreeSadOnions · 20/08/2018 16:36

How important is this story anyway in the great scheme of things?*

Well given previous potus was nearly impeached for having sexual relations with someone he shouldnt

Potentially very very important

I mean it would be sad if oug of all the fairly impeachable things hes done he got impeached for stormy daniels, on the other had fuck it would show him up to be the failure of a man he is, and we'd be rid of him so win win

Hideandgo · 20/08/2018 16:41

I think that woman has every bit as much right to airtime as anyone. She is no more or less a person than anyone.

BobRoss2 · 20/08/2018 16:48

I think you have to be really easily duped to believe Trump’s denials at this point, in light of the pay-off (which appears to have been a previously-undeclared and possibly illegal campaign contribution).

Roussette · 20/08/2018 16:48

Given he pays off his ex employees $15,000 a month each ad infinitum so that when they leave the WH they only say nice things about him and his family... (and all that money comes from small general public donations), I think she deserves $130,000. And she deserves a voice.

Buteo · 20/08/2018 16:50

I personally think its disgusting that this woman has been given celebrity status and air time

Well, she already had celebrity status in certain circles. After all, Trump knows all the best people doesn't he?

for an alleged act she was a willing participant in at the time,

The alleged act nor that she was a willing participant is the issue.

which was then 'leaked' to media years later BEFORE he became President when there wasn't much interest,

Not really "leaked" to media - Daniels did an interview with In Touch Weekly, which wasn't published at the time as Trump had threatened to sue. Shortly afterwards Daniels claims she was threatened in a public place.

accepted a payoff

Interesting that the $130,000 NDA payment was made in October 2016, just before the presidential elections? Almost like someone had something to hide?

then put it back in the public arena by suing him (who needs to sue to not be bound by an invalid document anyway?)

Well she played along to begin with, by denying everything, and was in turn threatened by Cohen. If the NDA is invalid, why the threats? Damn right to sue back.

Snoopychildminder · 20/08/2018 16:53

I mean no real celebrity or anyone with any credibility (to use your phrase) would want to go in cbb anyway.
It’s trash tv.
I hate the way that knob is silencing her, despite my dislike for that tv programme, and I am not watching it, I hope she has the opportunity to put her side across.

SnarkyGorgon · 20/08/2018 17:04

It's important because he paid her off in order to silence her just before the election. If the story had broken at that time it may have affected the outcome of the election. Any money used to influence an election campaign in America needs to be declared. They didn't declare it therefore its election fraud.

This has nothing to do with the morals of hearing on your spouse, it's to do with corruption

SnarkyGorgon · 20/08/2018 17:05

*cheating gargh auto correct

Defrack · 20/08/2018 17:14

Like how you focus on the cheating part and not the sort where he paid her off which means he cheated electoral law.

Impeach the orange bastard.

placemats · 20/08/2018 17:55

Of course it's corruption. But based on the premise of the op, YABVVU to think this. Either way.

The orange one is corrupt. Would you trust him to sell you a second hand car?

DioneTheDiabolist · 20/08/2018 18:05

Is there any evidence of the threats to her life and her child's?
When a sex worker tells me that a John has threatened her, I Believe Her (it's a Mumsnet thing). IIRC the threat to the child was to make it motherless.Sad I mean what sort of sicko does that shit? Perhaps the sort of scumbag john who thinks it's funny to brag about sexually assaulting women.
Makes a sordid story so much more dramatic doesn't it?
I think the John in this case, becoming POTUS and making a balls of the cover up, made this story so much more dramatic than anything the woman has done.

Only on MN will you get a defence of a woman who chooses to prostitute herself on film while raging that women like her are treated as sex toys.
Is it only on MN OP? Really? How did your post go down on the other discussion forums? BTW, just because a woman is a sex worker, it doesn't mean that she loses her rights to live her life free from threats.

Original poster
DiscombobulatedDiane · 20/08/2018 18:12

It gets crazier and crazier Confused.

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DioneTheDiabolist · 20/08/2018 18:32

I know!Shock I would never have thought that a man who brags about sexually assaulting women, allegedly raped his own wife, pays sex workers to get his rocks off and then threatens them, would be defended by anyone! But here you are OP.

Roussette · 20/08/2018 18:48

Exactly. Who'd have thought it....

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 20/08/2018 19:00

Still no comment regarding the election money being used to pay her off and then not declared then diane

Mandarine · 20/08/2018 19:24

This is a very odd thread Confused

This woman will be one of many and they will all come out of the woodwork eventually - “porn stars” or not. Trump is vile and an utter fool. Words fail me when it comes to him.

That said, the woman must be equally a fool for having sex with him in the first place. Just looking at him on TV is bad enough.

So yes, I do judge her as well. I do judge women who willingly make porn, particularly those who seem to think it’s fine to act out rape scenes or other violent scenes. What an insult to the millions of women who have been raped. They must be utterly thick or deluded to not think about the consequences on society of their “career” Unless they’re being forced into it, they’re as bad as the men involved in the industry, in my opinion.

However, lowlifes will generally flock together and this is yet another example. Hopefully it will bring him down, but I doubt it.

PerkingFaintly · 20/08/2018 20:32

I've just re-read a lot of the sources.

It looks like Michael Cohen is the one in danger of being hooked for breaking electoral finance laws... but at the instigation of and in co-operation with Trump.

So many lies, so much illegality, its hard to keep track. That's the strategy in Trumpworld.

Willow2017 · 20/08/2018 20:36

Still no justification of trump using electoral funds to silence women (amongst other things) and lie and cheat his way into office?
Lost your tongue op?

WaterOffaDucksCrack · 20/08/2018 20:42

Damn right I judge her on her choice of 'career' I don't judge prostitutes at all. Many women marry for nothing but money which is just the same as prostitution imo. I do however judge men who use prostitutes.

Roussette · 20/08/2018 21:28

Many women marry for nothing but money which is just the same as prostitution imo

Yes, like Melania.

WaterOffaDucksCrack · 20/08/2018 21:55

Yes and loads of other women and men not just her! I know someone married to a surgeon who is awful, sexist and a shit father but he gives her a lavish lifestyle. I don't see it as too many steps away from prostitution!

Grimbles · 20/08/2018 21:58

Is this debbydoesdallas finally managing to get the outrage assignment done properly this time?

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 20/08/2018 21:59

I know someone married to a surgeon who is awful, sexist and a shit father but he gives her a lavish lifestyle. I don't see it as too many steps away from prostitution

Really

A fair few of men are awful, sexist and shit fathers...does that make their wives close to prostitutes, or is it the money thats the issue

WaterOffaDucksCrack · 20/08/2018 22:02

Rufustheyawningreindeer it's the money. She'll moan about how shit he is and that she doesn't like him but would hate the drop in income. She openly states she's with him for the money.

WaterOffaDucksCrack · 20/08/2018 22:03

I also don't think being a prostitute is a bad thing either if it's a genuine choice!