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At my wits end with bedtime, please please help.

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brokeandsad · 17/08/2018 21:05

I'm shamelessly posting here for traffic. I don't know what to do and I'm tearing my hair out.

We have a son who will soon be three. We moved house almost two weeks ago. Apart from the first few night, which were fine, bed time has become hell and both DS and I usually end up crying, shouting and completely drained by it.

DS avoids sleep at all costs. He brushes his teeth etc fine but as soon as we get to his bedroom he starts flailing around and laughing maniacally. We sometimes get as far as coaxing him into bed with a story, or even laying down and singing his usual bedtime song. Then he stars rearranging his covers, flinging himself around on the bed, throwing his pillow. No amount of talking him out of it or distraction helps. It's gone as far as him headbutting me in the nose and throwing books at me.

We've tried just walking out of his room and telling him we'll come back when he's ready to go to sleep. He either wails that there's no one in his room with him, or hurls all his toys down the stairs, starting with the soft ones and getting bigger and heavier, until the other night he managed to pull out a fairly big wooden block that props up his toy shelves and hurled it down stairs hitting the dog on the head.

I'm completely at the end of my tether. I am so patient and calm with him for such a long time, but inevitably I end up losing my shit and shouting at him, and then immediately feel awful for it and sorry for him and the whole horrible cycle starts again. I'm in tears most nights. I now genuinely dread evenings. We went upstairs to bed tonight at 7 and now at ten to nine he's finally exhausted himself and given in.

Prior to moving his bedtime routine was good and he usually went to sleep quite quickly and slept all night. This was hard won. Since he was a baby he has fought sleep at all costs. At 4 or 5 months old he would twitch or shake a finger, a foot, his head, anything to keep himself awake. We never did controlled crying but it did take a lot of work and patience to get into a good habit.

It must be the move that's done it. Maybe he's anxious about his new surroundings. We did all the things we read we were supposed to. Talked about his lovely new bedroom, got him involved in choosing things for it. Got it mostly set up before we actually moved all our stuff in so he could see it and new what it looked like, you name it.

We've just moved house, which is stressful enough. I've not long started a new job which demands a lot of personal emotional energy and is quite high pressure. I haven't had much time off over the move. I'm completely exhausted. I've just finished a long spell of therapy with a Clinical Psychologist for PTSD. My DH is working weekends to make some extra cash. There's no let up.

I know he's two and it's not his fault and he's unsettled etc. But I am all out of ideas and barely keeping my grip on anything.

Sorry for the ramble. Please, I'm not usually a fan of parenting advice but I will take anything right now.

OP posts:
apriljune12 · 17/08/2018 22:07

Mmmm I think overthinking if they strike tired etc isn’t the point.

The reality is you are in charge you are the parents and what you say goes.

You need sleep more than them if you are driving and working. They need to know whose in charge. Negotiate less and tell more.

It’s allowed. And it works

apriljune12 · 17/08/2018 22:08

Up at 7 so you get time as adults. Up to them if they sleep straight away or play but your time.

bertielab · 17/08/2018 22:11

Mine -some excellent but one was a right bugger for sleep.

I had mine in with me .
However they now go in their own rooms:
CD player, play in room during day, up to bed at 5.30 after tea. Bath, settle, story in bed etc.............

Chalady · 17/08/2018 22:11

They should be exhausted by 19.00.

If I let my DD stay up until 21.00 or later, I would have to drag her out of her bed at 07.00 crying because I had woken her up, & because she had not had enough sleep, I couldnt take her to School or holiday club like that.
It wouldnt be fair on her or them.

She would be miserable and tired all day, while I was at work and a nightmare when I collect her.

30hours · 17/08/2018 22:15

There’s something sinister in his room.

booklover21 · 17/08/2018 22:30

Jeez 30hours! You've got me checking under my bed!!

I would be inclined to co-sleep for a few weeks and go to bed at the same time. You'll benefit from the extra sleep and it might help reset in a new home. It's a lot of changes for a little one and three years old is a very emotional time. I've got a three year old DS and sometimes it feels like I've got a mini teenager!

You'll need to be careful to build in from the beginning that it's only for a little while. Maybe while you paint his room or something? Could get him to help pick out things or help decorate so he feels more ownership and in control?

Good luck - it sounds like an incredibly draining time. Thanks

lrh3891 · 17/08/2018 22:33

Oh god @brokeandsad I could have written parts of your post. No house move and my dc is younger (just coming up 2) but he is an absolute nightmare at the moment. 2.5 hours tonight before he finally gave up.

Those of you saying to leave and come back, pop in to another room etc, what about if the child literally won't let you leave? Mine gets out of bed if I even do much as go close to the door, has to be fast asleep before I can leave. And is obviously exhausted but doing everything possible to stay awake- OP, I feel your pain!!

Sorry, no helpful advice but I just wanted to sympathise.

firstworldproblems2018 · 17/08/2018 23:04

Personally I think locking a child in their room is not the answer. It was suggested to me with mine and it felt totally wrong. Believe me I know how stressful it is dealing with non sleeping children. It’s awful. I agree with PP who say they need to know who’s in charge and have structure and routine. And my suggestion of leaving the room for a few mins etc obviously isn’t going to work if they don’t even let you leave. But please don’t put a lock on the door.

brokeandsad · 17/08/2018 23:10

Yeah I pulled a weird face at locking his bedroom door too bu generally try not to judge other parents so didn't post about it. That's no going to work for us though.

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Nicelunch25 · 18/08/2018 00:46

Could you make a bargain with Him and buy a nightlight he picks on condition he stays in bed and if he misbehaves take it away? Or the story cds worked with my sons. Good luck, hate dreading the evening! Should be adult time!

Goth237 · 18/08/2018 09:03

I'm also very much in the Supernanny camp. Take him back. First time you say "It's bedtime (darling/sweetie/any other pet name if you use one)". Second time you say "Bedtime." and the times after that you don't engage him at all. Say absolutely nothing and just keep taking him back. Persistence is key and it will take a little while and the first couple of nights you may be frazzled but it'll work. Just show him that you're not backing down. Good luck OP.

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