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To get a whippet puppy in a small flat

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Wantaskinnydog · 14/08/2018 19:40

Following on from lots of whippet threads I wondered whether it would be unreasonable to consider getting a whippet pup in my circumstances. We have 2 small children and 2 cats and live in a small 3 bed flat with a patio. We have always wanted a dog, always hoped we could afford to move to a house but it will never happen. Should I resign myself to never having a dog? We can't move for a whole load of reasons. Lifestyle wise we are totally geared up for a dog. Anyone?!

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DraughtyWindow · 14/08/2018 23:20

I had two cats.... then we got a whippet. They shared beds. Yes, they will chase anything that runs, but if they’re used to cats from an early age, they’re exercised and they’re encouraged not to chase then it can work. They need little exercise, a 15 min walk twice a day is enough for mine as they have the run of the garden. They’re the laziest, cleanest, most sweet-tempered dogs around. (I now also have another). They’re one of the few breeds without inherited health issues and they have a long lifespan. They don’t moult either. They’re not yappy, (but mine do chat to me), they don’t dribble and they don’t smell. I’d never be without one.

Jaxhog · 14/08/2018 23:20

Don't do it! My brother has a young whippet and, while he's lovely, he has more energy than a truck load of toddlers. They need walking (running!) at least 2 or 3 times a day, and will run around the rest of the time. He is almost never still and needs someone to play with most of the time. In a small flat, he'll be bouncing off the wall, and your cats will terrorize him. YOU might like having him there, but he won't.

Jaxhog · 14/08/2018 23:22

If you REALLY want a dog, find a breed that is smaller and needs less playtime. There are plenty of them. Just not a whippet (and not a puppy).

Wantaskinnydog · 14/08/2018 23:23

I don't think this thread is going to help me, the last 2 comments could not be more polar opposites Grin

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SunflowerJo08 · 14/08/2018 23:29

We are really experienced sighthound owners but nothing (not even a Saluki with a major attitude problem!) has prepared us for the whirlwind that is our 20 month old whippet. She is the most "dog-like" of all our sighthounds, in that she will whine and cry if my DH goes out, she'll chew through boredom, run and run and run forever, and is generally far more active than any other of our other dogs - they may look like baby greyhounds but activity wise they are poles apart from their lazy relations.

Most if not all sighthounds are pretty much off the table as far as cats are concerned, especially rescues because so many are bred for hare coursing and have huge prey drives. Good luck with your search though.

UnrelentingFruitScoffer · 14/08/2018 23:37

A whippet will do three walks a day. They are REALLY fast. If the walker does a mile, the whippet off the lead will do six. On the lead, the whippet will do only a mile and be miserable and cross.

Can you realistically let it off the lead in your four parks ? For half an hour at a time ?

If not, get a small dainty dog.

ThisIsTheNational · 14/08/2018 23:39

We lived in a flat with our first two sight hounds. First one was a 2 bed first floor flat with no private garden but a park opposite. DDog(best dog ever) was 2 and not toilet trained when we got her. We had two cats. It was hard work at first (particularly when I was ill once) but perfect.

CSIblonde · 14/08/2018 23:44

I'd stick to older rescue & a diff breed as pp said. With two cats I think you're risking it: Whippets & Greyhounds are hardwired to hunt. Friend lost two Guinea pigs to her neighbours whippet.

JustBeReasonable · 14/08/2018 23:58

I'm really not trying to be antagonistic, so I hope it doesn't seem that way- just think it'd be healthy to consider the other side Smile.

I wouldn't consider a rescue in my circumstances, I've known 3 separate cases of rescues that have gone horribly wrong

I am being perfectly honest when I say that I personally know of many more than three breeder-sourced dogs that have developed or caused huge problems. I do also know of a couple of rescue dogs that haven't worked out as hoped- but honestly, fewer than the bred dogs. Possibly because the process tends to be more thought out and more well-matched to the individual dog's traits (rather than relying on breed or bloodline) than with sourcing from a breeder, but that then leads on to your second point...

not all rescues have experienced staff who are good at matching dogs and it's just not a risk I would take. I think buying a puppy from a good breeder who knows their dogs...

I completely agree that not all rescues do a brilliant job, but the same can be said (realistically, more so) of breeders as a whole. It is no more effort to source a reputable rescue than a reputable breeder so I'm a little confused by this reasoning.

buying a puppy from a good breeder who knows their dogs and their dogs temperaments going back many generations, ie a lot of breeders have grandparents , great grandparents, siblings and know their dogs temperaments very well is in my personal opinion a much safer bet.

The family history of the dogs is no guarantee of the puppy's temperament. A good breeder will breed for temperament, of course, but it is always a big gamble regardless in a puppy. Some would argue that actually highly-bred dogs are more likely to be highly strung or develop neurological defects due to smaller gene pool- though that's a whole other topic. Adult dogs are by their very nature less unpredictable in terms of temperament as there is a little more evidence to go by- though of course you still have to consider that temperament is a plastic changeable trait that varies in different environments.

You can expect certain traits and thus suitability in certain breeds.

Honestly, I do think may be slightly true on average (so if you were to get 100 dogs then they might on average tend to a particular trait), but massively overemphasised. If you look at how people describe any particular breed, and look at the words that follow, you could literally change the breed name to anything and still believe it. Except for things like hairy, large etc of course! Grin

to have fun, to socialise to have days out at the odd show with my dog

Sorry, that question wasn't meant to sound sneery- just curious. Have you considered activities such as agility as well? Might fit more with what you'd like to get out of it. The show world is quite variable and can be intense- sometimes great, but I know a few people who have quit as it just got bitchy and overly serious even at low levels. Perhaps depends on area.

Just some food for thought Smile

Anyway, in response to the original question about the flat, it really does depend. Generally I'd advise strongly against. I know a couple of people who successfully have dogs in flats- both large spacious flats (no cats either), both child-free with one person home to take dog out constantly. In a smaller flat with children and cats I can't really imagine that being as easy to pull off. (I'd also worry about the cats struggling to get space away from everyone else potentially).

SubtitlesOn · 15/08/2018 00:03

I thought you wanted a British Bulldog a few days ago HmmHmmHmmHmm

Wantaskinnydog · 15/08/2018 08:44

Justbereasonable - thank you for your response.

I started this thread after seeing the bulldog thread, hence I said in my post at the very beginning.

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Larasshadow · 15/08/2018 09:06

I wouldn't worry about having a dog in a ground floor flat, our house is tiny and our dog was fine. Mind you he was a greyhound who slept for 23 hours if the day! Only needed a 20 minute walk a day (at the dog run so he could have a proper run around). He was great with the kids too.

The muzzle thing with retired greyhounds is that you should make them wear them until you know how they will react with new things. Like we muzzled ours until the neighbours cats knew we had a dog in the garden. Also was told to muzzle him when being introduced to the dog run and meeting other dogs, so it was only the first few weeks. He never once went for another dog or cat. We could even walk him along the local dog friendly beach without a lead on as he had excellent recall (which we were told would never happen as he's a greyhound!).

NarcolepticOuchMouse · 15/08/2018 09:20

Just thought I'd chuck in my 2 pence - I don't see your flat being an issue, it's closer to a house set up so I wouldn't worry about that. My concern is the age you want, have you had a puppy before? My pups are 2 this year and nothing prepared me for how mental they were in the first year. Unless you allow them to soil their crates in the night be prepared to be up every few hours to let them out in the beginning. The first two weeks of having a puppy you get little sleep. Maybe not the best idea given you have 2 young children whom I imagine already monopolise your sleep. And let me tell you about puppy teeth and claws, they're like needles! I have a couple of scars still from total accidents, i.e. they were excited and running around and simply jumping on me was enough to break skin. I would recommend an older dog from a rescue that can prove it's good with cats. The Dog's Trust are pretty great if you need suggestions. Puppies are mental and nothing like whatever breed spec you're looking at for atleast the first year. Mine aren't whippets (although I had one as a kid) but only now they're nearing 2 are they like what I'd read. The stress and hardwork is worth it for a pup, just don't want you going into a steep reality check.

Tumbleweed101 · 15/08/2018 09:43

I’ve got a lurcher and a cat and the dog has never been a problem chasing her etc. They sleep together. The puppy will learn they are pack members.

Running dogs are usually calm dogs indoors, they just have their burst of energy when out then go home and sleep!

thinkingaboutfostering · 15/08/2018 12:16

Do it you'll be fine. Do as you plan and have a puppy from the start - I'm totally for rescue dogs but not in this case.

I would get as big a crate as you can fit in so that you have somewhere to shut the puppy in when you can't be there to supervise and for periods to sleep. Put it in the quietest room if you can.

For the garden could you put an area of bark-chips down? That way the dog (and cats) can go to the loo and it won't smell and won't really need washing down too much if your kids don't have access out there. Don't worry too much about the steps the pup will learn and although it is advisable not to let them on stairs too much it's unrealistic I carry them the whole time.

Take the dog for 2-3 short walks and then home to sleep. If your out for longer you could always do what a friend of mine did for her older dog and had a dog cart!!!😂

runbeerrunbeer · 15/08/2018 21:02

Go for it OP. You're being sensible. It's well researched and thought out. You're not jumping in 2 feet first creating an impossible situation.

Our terrier cross rescue dog (size of a lab) with a completely doomed history lives in complete harmony with 3 ducks now. 🦆

Any dog is hard work, even with a big house and garden. I'm sure with the right environment, training and commitment, all will be fine.

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