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To be cross about this holiday booking?

151 replies

Divette · 07/08/2018 12:31

Aaargh I’m at the end of my tether here! We decided last minute (Friday last week) to book a holiday to our favourite resort for this Friday. It’s privately owned self catering apartments and we book the flights separately. We looked at flights and prices and knew we could (just about) justify it having bought a house this year too.

I got in touch with several owners and management companies to enquire about apartments. Nothing was quite what we were looking for (we specifically need to be in a certain place on resort so we can always be near the children when they’re in the pool etc. We know the resort well and so know which apartments work for us and which don’t).

One man (management company) got back to me eventually yesterday and said he had availability for our dates but we’d have to move apartments halfway through due to availability. We understood and were about to go ahead and book when he replied to say someone had agreed a booking on the apartment for the first part of our stay and this first one now wasn’t available after all but the second still was.

He then phoned me to say he had somewhere else for the second part of the stay but couldn’t tell me any details or price. This was 5ish yesterday and having checked the flights again we realised they had gone up in price by £250 (aaargh!) but that if we stayed longer, we could pay the original flight price so decided to extend our stay in the second apartment which he said was free and would be no problem.

We told him we would have to book our flights for fear of them going up again (they had already increased in price by £150 the day before). He said he definitely had somewhere in the correct location and with the 2 bathrooms so go ahead and book our flights. So we did.

Today he emailed to say he should have somewhere for me by 9am. He gave me a price which was high but we had to go with it by this point. I thanked him and explained again we were quite specific about location on resort and that if whatever he had found didn’t suit, we’d be happy to use it for the first week, then move into his second apartment as agreed yesterday. He then said he had an apartment for the whole of our stay that his friend could offer us, but that he couldn’t remember any details about it (not the location on resort or if it had 2 bathrooms like we wanted). He told me at this point to email his friend instead (not a company just an owner who lives on the resort). I reiterated that we’d need to know the details of location etc before we booked. He said he didn’t have any details and it was very short notice for me to be asking for them.

I said again we’d need to know info so we knew our boys would be close by in the pool etc and that we’d need to go with the original plan of moving apartments if the first wasn’t suitable. He said we could no longer do that as he’d just taken a booking on the second apartment and the only one now available was this one through a third party in the resort which he had no details about!

I called him at this point and he told me to speak to this other man for details. I said I was booking through him (it’s him he had asked me to pay), so although he was really not happy he said he’d try to find out some details. He said he had been told details this morning but it was very early so he couldn’t remember and he had 3 children to look after Confused

He called me back and said this man wanted to speak to me and tried to give me his number to call him in the resort. He said he had tried 3 times to give the man my number but couldn’t (something to do with a landline). I was cross by now and asked him to email the man my number as I didn’t want to pay to call internationally when I was trying to book through him. He put the phone down on me!

Now we’re left with nowhere to stay potentially or having to stay somewhere unsuitable and some really expensive flights booked! Shock

Am I wrong to expect more?!

OP posts:
Divette · 07/08/2018 14:00

CoperCabana it is believed that airlines remember your searches so if you search the same flights a few times, they remember that and put the prices up. I always look on various devices to check the actual price before I book now, but some people believe it can even be related to your IP address so you should go elsewhere to check. Sneaky airlines!

OP posts:
mrsm43s · 07/08/2018 14:03

Suitable accommodation was never offered.

So you booked your flights without suitable accommodation being offered, and are now complaining that you have flights but no suitable accommodation?

If no suitable accommodation was offered, then why on earth would you book your flights.

I think this guy is bending over backwards to try to meet your needs, but he can't offer you a room that is not available. You should not have booked flights until you had reserved your accommodation.

Lululemonade · 07/08/2018 14:03

You often have a 24 hour period after booking flights which you can cancel in, this is certainly the case with BA and EasyJet (though I think there is a fee on EasyJet)

adaline · 07/08/2018 14:04

I really don’t know what I did wrong here. I did not expect anything at all.

You expected him to hold accommodation for you (with no deposit or payment) and then booked flights on the words of a complete stranger. If you knew you probably wouldn't get what you wanted at such a late stage, why on earth did you fork out for flights?

CoperCabana · 07/08/2018 14:04

Thanks. Didn’t realise that. Have had this happen with hotels so do booking sites do this also?

harriethoyle · 07/08/2018 14:06

OP: AIBU?
MN (nigh on unanimously): Yes!
OP: I'm not! What did I do wrong?!

🙈

Divette · 07/08/2018 14:07

mrsm43s He said he would have ‘something’, that he wouldn’t be able to give us details until today but that we could go ahead and book flights to avoid them going up in price again (which they have). Then today he said he had ‘something’ but couldn’t give me any details of what it was and that I should ‘trust him’

OP posts:
Divette · 07/08/2018 14:09

People are telling me i’m BU for ‘expecting’ accommodation to be available so late. I’m just explaining I never expected it to be available, just for someone providing a service to customers to do so with integrity.

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reeldoop · 07/08/2018 14:10

yes they all do it I think. Clear cookies and history or use an incognito Google session. Also don't login to the booking sites.

When we were booking a last minute holiday a few weeks ago I was on my computer at home ob easy jet and booking.com and DP was at work and we were getting different prices and different availabilities. On booking.com the accommodation I was looking at (logged in) was saying "hurry, only 1 apartment left!". Message didn't come up for same details for him.

pudcat · 07/08/2018 14:13

Then today he said he had ‘something’ but couldn’t give me any details of what it was and that I should ‘trust him’ - the last two words would raise red flags for.

SisterNotCisTerf · 07/08/2018 14:17

Oh come on, you’re not a teen booking their first holiday! You’re an adult, You’ve done this before, you can’t seriously expect us to believe you booked flights because this man told you to trust him? You can’t be that naive.

Divette · 07/08/2018 14:21

I agree I was naive to be so trusting, but are you saying that’s an ok way to do business? All I’m saying is this man hasn’t dealt with this professionally at all and I still believe I’m correct to be upset about that.

OP posts:
adaline · 07/08/2018 14:25

But why on earth did you trust the word of a total stranger? You knew you didn't have adequate accommodation sorted and chose to book the flights anyway - this is a situation entirely of your own making! Be annoyed by all means, but at yourself for making such a daft decision.

You're a grown up with children, surely you know the basics of booking a holiday? Why on earth would you book flights without anywhere to stay when you got there? Confused You hadn't got any accommodation, you hadn't paid a deposit - that was your fault. You chose to trust the word of a total stranger and now you're in a situation where you'll either have to suck it up and stay somewhere you don't want to stay, or accept the loss of the flight money and stay home instead.

MadeForThis · 07/08/2018 14:26

You trusted him enough to book the flights but you don't trust him that the apartment is suitable despite him telling you it is.

You can't have it both ways.

SisterNotCisTerf · 07/08/2018 14:30

but are you saying that’s an ok way to do business?

To fill the vacantly apartments he is paid to fill with less than a week to go? To choose the customer who can pay straight away over the fussy one who wants you to run around finding out different pieces of information that may never actually take the place because by their own admission, it isn’t suitable? Yes, I would say he is a smart business man.

cestlavielife · 07/08/2018 14:34

You are dealing with private owners /management company
not a proper ABTA holiday company...

this is a guy trying to make some money out of you by persuading his mates who own properties to go elsewhere etc. Or someone who has let to family asking them to leave and make.money out of you. Yes he will no doubt find you one of the places but has to juggle it around. You paying extra to be shunted about trailing towels from property to property... Your call.to.take.it or leave it...it s last minute so you don't get to choose .

MiggledyHiggins · 07/08/2018 14:38

CoperCabana, your cookies leave a trail on-line, so the algorithm sees that you are looking for eg. Flight X on Y date return for Z number passengers. So when you toddle off to have a think about it or do some number crunching, or to check other airlines/sites, and return, the algorithm sees your cookies, knows your back looking at the flights again and tries to put the shits up you by putting up the price and telling you they are selling out quick. That way people panic and think "If I don't book this right now, we won't be able to go at all"

So if you are browsing for flights or hotels always use private or incognito browsing. That way, every time you view you are a 'new' user to them and not a returning one.

CoperCabana · 07/08/2018 14:42

Thanks everyone! I did not know that and now feel like a fool. Although I rarely go on holiday so limited damage done. Blush

Bluntness100 · 07/08/2018 14:49

The cookie thing has been proven to be an urban myth.

Think about it logically, why would an airline put the price up? It would either stop you buying because it was too expensive or make you buy from the competition.

It's easily disproven as well.

mummymeister · 07/08/2018 14:51

His job is to sell accommodation and apartments. There may be a language barrier here so he may not have understood that from your point of view you didn't just want any apartment at this complex, you wanted a particular one/area and that if you couldn't have this then you wouldn't come at all. All he probably "heard" when you were speaking to him was that flights were going up and up and if he was going to make any sort of sale then you needed to book the flights at x cost. so of course, as a sales person, he realised that the sale would be lost if he didn't encourage you to book the flights then he would worry about the choice of apartment later, probably thinking that he could "talk you around" into taking something.

he isn't your friend or a work colleague. he is a salesman whose job relies on him making sales. Had this been a work colleague or family member then of course they should have been more honest. but it isn't. I have lost count of the times as an independent traveller, that someone has tried to sell me not what I want but what they have available. lesson learnt OP. next time, clear your cookies after each flight search and always book accommodation first if its the most important part of your holiday.

CheesyPizza · 07/08/2018 14:52

He then said he had an apartment for the whole of our stay that his friend could offer us, but that he couldn’t remember any details about it

I would not have commited to anything without hearing the details if I was being specific about my requirements. He openly admitted he had no clue about the details. Good luck though

Howhot · 07/08/2018 14:58

He is not your personal travel agent OP. You sound quite difficult and you need to arrange this yourself.

birdladyfromhomealone · 07/08/2018 15:05

Where are your flights to?
If its Malaga on The costa del Sol I have a 4 bed villa with private pool stil availble till the end of August due to a cancellation.

cestlavielife · 07/08/2018 15:09

And his "friend" could be anyone...He knows your desperate.... if it isn't what you want you will.have little comeback...

LeftRightCentre · 07/08/2018 15:14

All I’m saying is this man hasn’t dealt with this professionally at all and I still believe I’m correct to be upset about that.

You're the one with no place to stay. Being upset about him and his behaviour is a total waste of your time and energy. He will be able to let those apartments out whether you take one or not. It's August. Until you pay a deposit nothing is guaranteed (even then, depending on T&Cs, it might not be to exactness). You're not in a position be professionally offended here. He behaved the way someone would if they have something desirable to sell that is in high demand: take it or leave it.