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To serve these foods to muslim friends

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MissMildred · 04/08/2018 19:03

Hi - posting here for traffic but also because I don't want to BU. I invited some new school friends and their parents for a bbq in a couple of weeks and two of the families are muslim and mentioned they only eat halal.
I want to make an effort to make them feel comfortable, and it has also been very interesting learning all about what is halal or haram. Obviously no pork will be served. However, some of the guidance on the internet is not clear, so I wondered if anyone with this diet could help me with these items and whether it would BU to serve them up:

Vinegar - if I served this in eg. a coleslaw, are all types of vinegar fine? (Eg is the vinegar not seen as alcohol anymore?)
Butter - Am I overthinking this? Would you eat butter?
Alcohol - I know you wouldn't drink this, but is it acceptable for others in the group to be drinking a glass of wine?
Halloumi - I can't figure out if this is okay or not.

Also - any tips you might have would be great, especially if there are brands of crisps, bread, butter etc....you might use.

Thank you!

OP posts:
Emotionaleater · 05/08/2018 16:01

I have a question (probably get ignored Grin) but people keep nothing Sikhs cannot eat meat slaughtered in any ritual way, so is kosher meat forbidden for Sikhs to consume? If not; that’s then very confusing that halal is Hmm

What about meat slaughtered in a Christian slaughterhouse? Again, can Sikhs consume that?

Finally, people are very confused about the way meat is slaughtered etc etc, something I’ve pointed out before, muslims are permitted to eat kosher and meat slaughtered following Christian traditions as all these traditions mean that God was remembered at the time of slaughter. I’m still amused at how people believe a prayer is read over the meat Shock seriously, it’s the same line that is said by all three Abrahamic faiths Smile

Halal meat is mostly stunned so you’ll come across some Muslims who want to follow the stricter slaughtering and therefore only consume kosher meat

YeTalkShiteHen · 05/08/2018 16:02

No, learn to read

Given your propensity for mangling a statement and completely misinterpreting it, that comment is quite funny.

I want everyone, religious and non-religious alike, to have the same opportunity to either consume or avoid consuming ritually-slaughtered food. Simple!

We do, so what have you just spent the last few hours getting so pissed off about? Grin

YeTalkShiteHen · 05/08/2018 16:03

Sikhs cannot eat kosher meat either as far as I’m aware, since it’s ritualistically slaughtered.

commonarewe · 05/08/2018 16:04

We do, so what have you just spent the last few hours getting so pissed off about?

The bizarre aversion to secular choices displayed by both you and others. HTH

FizzyWizzyFlash · 05/08/2018 16:07

I think you're over thinking it.

I take it they're aware that you drink ? They probably have an understanding of what happens at a BBQ so if they were not comfortable I doubt they would accept your invitation?

As for buying halal meat, it's extremely kind of you to go out of your way to cater for them.

Butter is fine. So is vinegar and the squeaky cheese.

They probably will stay clear of anything they're not sure of or ask you (don't take it personally).

If you are doing non halal meat and vegetarian food, just remember to use different serving spoons to avoid cross contamination.

Though as someone else suggested, the easiest method is to treat them as vegetarians or prescasaurus'. You'll have enough on your plate hosting.

Hope it goes well.

NicePear · 05/08/2018 16:07

There is no humane way to kill animals. They don't want to die. If you care so much about the slaughtering you should become vegan

Emotionaleater · 05/08/2018 16:07

yetalk thank you for answering my question.

JacquesHammer · 05/08/2018 16:10

The bizarre aversion to secular choices displayed by both you and others. HTH

I would welcome a fully secular society. I have no aversion to secular choices.

Halal meat doesn’t register on my list of religious things that irritate me.

YeTalkShiteHen · 05/08/2018 16:10

The bizarre aversion to secular choices displayed by both you and others

The fact you cannot see the irony in that statement is staggering.

Your intolerance is quite astonishing, and your lack of understanding is about the same, have a nice day trying to make sense of it all.

YeTalkShiteHen · 05/08/2018 16:11

Emotionaleater no problem, it’s been quite interesting reading the backgrounds of different faiths and why they have certain rules. I’m still an atheist like, but happy enough to research faith and see why it means so much to people.

commonarewe · 05/08/2018 16:11

Halal meat doesn’t register on my list of religious things that irritate me.

Are you prepare to countenance the remote possibility that other secularists might disagree with you?

JacquesHammer · 05/08/2018 16:13

Are you prepare to countenance the remote possibility that other secularists might disagree with you?

How ironic.

JacquesHammer · 05/08/2018 16:14

I’m loving the idea that people are somehow being forced to eat halal meat.

Unless you’re terribly unlucky and are being held down in the meat aisle whilst being force fed a chicken leg, I think you’ve got plenty of choices

YeTalkShiteHen · 05/08/2018 16:16

Here’s a plan, if you don’t want to eat halal meat and can’t abide the idea, make your entire diet pork based. Job done. 🙄

I saw the irony in it Jacques I think it might be a stretch to expect it from the poster who said it.

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/08/2018 16:17

I want everyone, religious and non-religious alike, to have the same opportunity to either consume or avoid consuming ritually-slaughtered food. Simple!

We do, so what have you just spent the last few hours getting so pissed off about?

Grin Exactly!

ImAIdoot · 05/08/2018 16:20

Ihave a question (probably get ignored) but people keep nothing Sikhs cannot eat meat slaughtered in any ritual way, so is kosher meat forbidden for Sikhs to consume? If not; that’s then very confusing that halal is

Yes, kosher meat is also prohibited.

commonarewe · 05/08/2018 16:21

Unless you’re terribly unlucky and are being held down in the meat aisle whilst being force fed a chicken leg, I think you’ve got plenty of choices

Receiving the same courtesy of having the food correctly labelled would be a good start then, wouldn't it?

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/08/2018 16:22

The bizarre aversion to secular choices displayed by both you and others. HTH

There ARE secular choices!! Gordon Bennett.

Sandstormbrewing · 05/08/2018 16:23

Emotionaleater Sikhs cannot eat any meat ritually slaughtered. This includes halal and kosher meat, or meat which has been offered up to the [gods] during preparation or serving. I don't actually know of any Christian slaughterhouses in the UK as I am not aware of any ristuslistic slaughter required by Christians, but happy to be corrected on that.

YeTalkShiteHen · 05/08/2018 16:25

Receiving the same courtesy of having the food correctly labelled would be a good start then, wouldn't it?

So ask? You know, like people who require halal/kosher/non ritualistically slaughtered meat have to because it’s not labelled!

You seem very tetchy about “courtesies” mythically extended to faith groups, when there aren’t any.

Oh beyond allowing them to slaughter their meat according to their faith. But then you don’t have one so can’t really complain about that not being offered to you.

sonarbear · 05/08/2018 16:25

Emotionaleater it's not an issue of where the meat gets slaughtered or which religion the slaughterer practices. They don't eat meat that has been ritualistically killed in any way, this includes kosher (has been stated on this thread numerous times). Not that difficult to understand.

ImAIdoot · 05/08/2018 16:25

As I suggested before, a vegetarian menu would avert all of these concerns and probably amount to a delicious change for guests and a fun cooking experience for host, so it is actually very easy to respect everyone's wishes and beliefs and not label some as more important than others.

I can't see the point of the argument happening in this thread :(

rainbowsandsmiles · 05/08/2018 16:26

As I suggested before, a vegetarian menu would avert all of these concerns and probably amount to a delicious change for guests and a fun cooking experience for host, so it is actually very easy to respect everyone's wishes and beliefs and not label some as more important than others

No doubt you'd have the militant meat eaters kicking off then if you made it all veggie Grin

ImAIdoot · 05/08/2018 16:30

What about meat slaughtered in a Christian slaughterhouse? Again, can Sikhs consume that?

Christians who ritually slaughter meat are very rare, basically limited to minorities in North America and some quasi-Christians in the middle east, so no that would be absolutely fine. Anyone of any faith could slaughter the meat without the ritual and that would be fine, too (although for some this would be wrong to do, but that's beside the point).

ImAIdoot · 05/08/2018 16:32

No doubt you'd have the militant meat eaters kicking off then if you made it all veggie

Haha true! Although I think it's better to leave the option to refuse than to ninja anything in there someone might not want to have eaten.