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To think it's always worth confronting sexism?

13 replies

Thisnamechanger · 03/08/2018 23:34

Stupid example but I had a slow day today at work and spotted a post on a fitness page I follow from some idiot along the the lines of "women should cover up at the gym because I want to focus on my workout not wanting to have sex with you".

I pointed out most women just wear gym clothes and aren't trying to get men to think about having sex with them at all.

He then said women should be grateful if he feels that way because he's good looking.

Most of the people telling him off were men, which is fab, but DP said he was clearly a massive twat but it's not worth arguing with him.

AIBU the think that it's always good to call this behavior out, even if it is from a stranger on FB?

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FASH84 · 03/08/2018 23:39

You should always challenge it, but don't get embroiled with a troll , challenge and move on

ImAIdoot · 03/08/2018 23:55

If you automatically engage everyone on a given subject there is literally no limit to how big an arsehole someone can be before you won't descend to their level, you're at the mercy of every troll that crosses your path.

So YABU I'm afraid, you have to be able to walk away sometimes even if it's an important issue.

Nino86 · 04/08/2018 00:02

There just aren’t enough hours in the day, particularly when it comes to social media and comment sections.

dadshere · 04/08/2018 00:03

Twats will be twats. I have stopped going to the gym, too intimidating. Whilst there did appear to be some women who go with the intention of flirting rather than exercising, in my experience it is the men who were worst at this. Sweating like a pig on the bike and some guy trying to catch your eye or start a conversation seemed to be my wedneday routine until I realised that the gym was not for me.

WTFnnoh · 04/08/2018 00:05

I never yield to sexism. Ever. In fact I never yield to anyone disrespecting me and that includes speaking to me in a way that undermines me because I’m a woman. I don’t care if that makes me a bitch or whatever. I do not tolerate it. No one else is going to stand up for women except women and if me challenging someone makes even one man rethink the way he considers women then job done.

I had this conversation with my sis recently and she said I should consider taking the high road sometimes and avoiding confrontation. Fuck that. Sexism is not something I can walk away from.

garethsouthgatesmrs · 04/08/2018 00:06

imagine being the person who thinks this and is prepared to write it on a public forum. I don't think you need to challenge him, he already looks like a dick. Just laugh from a distance and thank God he isn't your DP

ImAIdoot · 04/08/2018 00:07

Same dadshere. Doesn't help that I find men who think they are the best thing since sliced bread because of gym muscles, and any woman would be lucky to cast eyes on them particularly unattractive either. They exude insecurity and wankerishness and get in the way of other people simply enjoying some exercise.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 04/08/2018 00:07

Depends on the situation

Online sometimes others I ignore if someone I feel is just being goady other times I bite

In some areas at work it isn’t possible to challenge it all the time neither is it in different cultural settings

Nino86 · 04/08/2018 00:19

Decent example; I just backed out of this thread and the next thread is called something like ‘AIBU or is she just a bit of a bitch?’ I think that’s sexist language but no one in the thread seems to give a shit (at least one other sexist insult is used). I really can’t be bothered to police that. Would probably be more than a full time job to challenge every instance of sexism.

Sparklesocks · 04/08/2018 00:28

I do try and call it out where I can. But the fact is some people are never going to change their view point and it’s not worth exhausting yourself getting into an argument because you’re only going to go in a circle. The internet is especially bad for this, some people will post inflammatory things on purpose to get a reaction and will gleefully stir the pot once they’ve hooked you in. They might not even fully agree with the things they’ve said but enjoy seeing you wound up about it.

I think it’s a pick your battles situation, depends on the context..and how much energy you have!

garethsouthgatesmrs · 04/08/2018 00:47

nino i never saw bitch as sexist, just a term used to refer to a woman who isn't nice like wanker is for a man. However iam prepared to be educated - i never used to think Friends was sexist but watching it again I cringe so much!!!

Nino86 · 04/08/2018 02:20

garethsouthgatesmrs have a read around. It’s a word with a fairly complex history that was at least reclaimed to a degree. That said I’m not sure how successful the reclamation has been given the ‘Trump That Bitch’ merchandise in the last US election and the recent popularity of the term ‘Resting Bitch Face’ (which obviously applies solely to women; men just look thoughtful).

Thisnamechanger · 04/08/2018 10:12

That's a real shame dadshere. I find the behavior of some of the men in the weight room quite intimidating.

I'm not sure if it's to do with this particular that but I've now had a bit if a wobble about going out in my gym shorts. Confused

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