To object to reversing horns from dustcarts at 5am

[ForalltheSaints]

Council seems to think it is OK. I understand it is illegal to sound a reversing horn in a built-up area between 1130pm and 7am. The route of refuse collection could be changed to avoid this, as few roads in the area are cul-de-sacs.

AIBU to expect the law to be obeyed?

YANBU to be annoyed by it, YWBU to ask the council to change their entire waste collection system because it does

In light of recent waste collection threads, you should just be grateful they are collecting yours!!

The reversing horn/buzzer/beeper goes automatically , so not even a case of them switching it off before those times.

Ooh is that a bin lorry? I much prefer the word “dustcart”. Dustcart. I will use that from now on.

And back to your point, I presume it’s automated? You could all take your bins to the end of your cul-de-sac for the “dustcart” if its beeping bothers you.

This isn't a reversing horn, so it's exempt. They are sounded for safety of the operatives in the vicinity of the maneuvering vehicles.

However you have my sympathies as I used to live in halls of residence behind a bank, and the deliveries of cash were a nightmare in the middle of the night as the drivers used to sit in reverse - they clearly couldn't hear the noise from inside the cab - and all we could hear was "WARNING! SECURITY VEHICLE REVERSING! BEEP BEEP BEEP! BEEP BEEP BEEP!" Over and over again.

White noise reversing noise are a lot less intrusive and easier for residents to sleep through - perhaps you'd have more luck in asking them to switch them over?

What's the circumstances of you being disturbed? Do you live near the depot? Or is it only when your bins are collected? How often?

In our area rubbish collections are starting at 6am rather tha 8.30 so the crews can get finished before it gets too hot. Makes perfect sense to me.
It also gets them off the road before rush hour.

Ours are starting earlier because of the heat. The smell, flies, maggots and heat must make their job really grim in summer.

It is only when the bins are collected. For a long time the dustcart came mid-morning, so it is not impossible to revert back.

Dustcart is what they are called in the USA.

The route has obviously changed, and they won't amend it to suit one household on the entire route. They are calculated based on the number of lorries they have, the approximate weight of the waste they anticipate (more at Xmas for example), how often they will have to go back to the depot to tip the waste, how long the shift will be, the routes they can manage with the vehicles they have and using specialise ones in certain locations (small lorries for narrow roads - teeny tiny one on St Mary's on the Isles of Scilly for example)... So a bit like the Northern Rail cock up, it's not as simple as a new timetable.

I'm afraid you're going to have to suck it up or all the neighbours are going to have to leave the bins at the end of the road and negotiate with the council that this will be the new routine. You can campaign for a change to the routine but if you're the only one complaining, you'll be laughed out of the council offices. Also, if you take it to the local paper, you'll be eaten alive by social media.

I was actually going to start a thread about whether they are dustcarts or bin lorries I grew up using the former but now it feels weird so I say bin lorry.

I completely take back what I said about it being a USA thing! Just looked up the etymology, and dustcart is a British name, just one more associated with use in the 1950s, so may be one people learned from a certain era or a hand me down from relatives etc.

I do apologise!

dustcart! was it a donkey braying you heard, OP? :)

No path at the end of the road.

Have passed on complaint to the local councillors. Unfortunately they have a large majority thanks to Jeremy Corbyn (live in Barnet Borough).

Councils have responsibilities with regards to noise, and in winter it means reversing in darkness.

YABVU presumably its only every week/2 weeks