Vomiting bugs - why are people so irresponsible? Grrr

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Why why why do people take their children out to socialise when they have been vomiting recently?

A couple of days ago my 2yo went on a playdate with her regular babysitter, when the nanny of the other kid mentioned in passing that the kid had been vomiting the night before, (i.e. 12 hours ago) but was fine now. 48 hours later, DD starts with the d&v, and I'm bracing myself for the whole family coming down with it.

Last time this happened was at Christmas - very similar situation with another parent taking their kid out because they vomited recently but seem to feel better - and not mentioning it until our kids had already been hanging out for hours. Over the next few days my entire family including both my siblings, their kids and nanny, and my elderly parents got sick. It was total carnage, and I'm not sure I can bear this happening twice a year for the foreseeable, especially as my parents are getting older and I will have a newborn soon.

I wouldn't dream of taking a kid who'd vomited in the last 48 hours out with other children - without at least warning the other family! I thought this was just standard but clearly not?

I honestly don't get it... Do people not realise how contagious d&v bugs are? Do they just think they are not a big deal - like the common cold - and not think about the potential danger to those in contact with very young babies and elderly relatives? Do they just not care because being cooped up at home with toddlers is hell?

YANBU
It’s selfish and irresponsible

My dd2 has type 1 diabetes and if she gets a bug she has to go into hospital it’s extremely dangerous for her. She has to be on iv fluids and anti sickness drugs and her blood glucose has to be carefully managed by iv insulin/ glucose it’s an absolute nightmare

The of course there are other people with weakened immune systems who can also get very ill.
People should just stick to the 48 hr rule and not be so selfish

YANBU! If anything, I'm the opposite. My child's attendance at school this year (Reception) has been terrible because I've been super vigilant at the sign of any kind of tummy bug. I'm a teacher myself so I know how quickly these things spread in school and how utterly gross kids are.
It's been a year of bloody awful illnesses in our household but at one point I was considering asking the school to put some emergency measures in place for cleaning as the runny poo was just never ending
Hand hygiene drives me mad as well - the number of my child's friends who just don't wash their hands after using the loo is unbelievable. I'm going to get a reputation as the mean Mummy who forces everyone to scrub their hands clean when they come to play

Dd's school don't give a shit around the 48hr rule. If you ring in sick with d&v they simply say send them in tomorrow if they are feeling better. A friend of mine who is a sahm will send hers to school even if they are unwell because "they will be running all over by lunch time" if she keeps them home

My SIL did this. We went to her daughters birthday party and she just dropped into conversation she'd been puking all night. We all got it. My SIL is a cunt though.

Agree, some people are morons. A few Christmases ago, SIL was all set to go and visit her friend who had norovirus, on Xmas eve. I categorically told DH that we wouldn't be going over to theirs if she went ahead with the visit, as I didn't want to spoil not only ours but my whole family's Christmas. I think she genuinely just hadn't thought.

My children’s school has a 24 hour rule, not a 48 hour one. The secondary school I teach in has no such rule. And definitely not for staff.

YANBU.

I used to work in a school and it’s the reason I gave up working there. I have a weakened immune system due to a health condition and I really noticed how selfish parents were about sending in sick children.

Yanbu...dd’s best friend turned up at the school fete after being at school the whole day and had been vomiting upto 2 hours beforehand...I do have a touch of emetephobia so refused to let dd near her but obviously there were lots of shared games...the child them vomited in the car on the way home after being there for a couple of hours...the parents were angry with me as I didn’t let dd play with their dd and said they let her go as she was really looking forward to it...I also had a 6 month old..dd fell ill a few days later and was hospitalized for dehydration...

*being off school

My DN had a very bad cold and sore throat but they didn’t tell us, and pressed on with her party regardless. When we arrived she was obviously very ill. My 6 month old baby DD caught it and it turned into bronchialitis and a hospital stay. They denied she caught it from them .

YADNBU! I would be surprised if anyone thought otherwise. I do however have friends - more than one who expect others to adhere to the rules but think they don’t apply to them! When they’re child is sick there’s always another explanation which means they send them back to nursery/school immediately “because it can’t be contagious” Our school are very strict about the 48 hour rule which I’m very pleased about, however they are also very strict about sending unwell children home- they don’t unless the child is actually vomiting by which point half the class will have been exposed! We’re talking infant school age children here, if they say they don’t feel well, just sent them home! I once picked my DS (only just 4) up from reception at the end of the day with him visibly unwell, hot and in tears and when I questioned his teacher she just dismissed it as “oh he’s just tired” He’d been telling his teacher all afternoon he felt unwell but she’d totally ignored him. When I got him home he had a temperature of 40 and was then off school for the next week! I’m a working parent, it’s not always easy to find cover, I do appreciate that but sometimes, it has to be done!

their child not they’re sorry! grammar slip from me!

Tbh 48h rule isnt adherred to. Would be interested to see % of parents who do it.
One kid at the park with CP. Another at storytime who was off school for 48h and then at park.
Using common sense would be more sensible.
Also for the pp adenovirus is spead like a cough /cold so kids or adults with it may not seem that ill certainly they may only have mild diarrhoea whereas a young kid would have d&v. I think the virus also lasts a long time outside the body.
Wash hands after inside things like soft play is my recommendation.
It's also the kids vomitting in class that are the issue much more than ones coming back too soon. Why worry about coming back too soon if the whole class is already exposed. ?

I work in a school office and we regularly get children up to us saying they feel ill, lo and behold they'll have a high temperature and casually drop in to conversation they were sick last night.

It's been particularly stressful the past few months before summer hols because I am pregnant. It is so mind boggling selfish when you consider there are lots of people about with a weakened immune system, children and staff.

We got invited to dinner. Hosts didn't mention youngest child had been vomiting all day. We arrived & said child continued to vomit all over himself/floor/table. They changed him & served dinner! Thankfully we didn't catch it but what goes through these idiots minds. Just cancel dinner. It wasn't formal or an occasion. These people are renowned for this. Sickness, colds, verrucas. The kids have to fit into their lives no matter what.

YANBU
People are fucking stupid
And inconsiderate! Drives me mad.

I have no idea. I don’t know if they just don’t think or just think it’s not that contagious or something. I could list so many times people have done this to us. It’s very annoying.

We too have had the year from hell with parents from my sons primary school constantly sending their kids in sick and passing d&v bugs round like wild fire. The school only worry about their attendance and accept children in regardless of when the vomiting stopped. My son then passes it on to our T1 teenager who ends up in hospital on a drip. When I pointed this out to the head she said I should worry about attendance too and the consequences for the school 🙄. Other words your daughters condition is not our problem. Can’t help but think though that the constant bugs she was subjected to in primary didn’t help strengthen her immune system but damage it hence she ended up being diagnosed diabetic the day after she left primary school. An auto immune condition. Which are on the rise as we have to subject our children to a constant barrage of illness as other people are too selfish to keep their sick kids at home 😡

DD had been back 1 day after a week off with chicken pox. Puked that evening so off for 2 more days. The minute she puked I started planning the emergency childcare plan I'd have to put in place. That's life. It's bloody annoying having to take time off work when kids have d&v but if everyone did it properly there would be a lot less of it!!!

It's thought that my early labour was triggered by the d&v DS1 picked up at school. I get it's hard to find emergency childcare and many employers aren't understanding but it's just so necessary.

This annoys me so much and DH is regularly complaining to school about them needing to reiterate the need for the 48hr rule. Especially when dd has been to hospital twice due to bugs (blood in sick and dehydrated)

I work in a school and had to send a child home last week of term as they were sick. When I said I'd call their mum they said "oh my mum said you would phone her if I was sick again"...if we'd known they had already been sick they wouldn't have been allowed to stay when dropped off... unfortunately we don't always know.

Also at my DC school one parent was talking at Monday pick up time how they had to cancel so and so plan on sunday as little Tommy had been sick all Saturday night. Funnily enough little Tommy is one of the kids beaming in the "well done on 100% attendance" announcement photo in the newsletter.

Not trying to hi-jack the thread but I have a quick, noob parenting question relating to this:

My 15 month old son came down with his first vomiting bug yesterday (Saturday) that's been doing the rounds at his nursery. He hasn't been sick since noon on Saturday, his fever has now gone and he's back to his happy self.

Can I send him to nursery tomorrow morning for 9am so I can go to work or do I literally have to wait exactly 48 hours? This is uncharted territory for me and I don't want to make other kids sick (even though other kids parents at nursery apparently don't feel the same way it seems otherwise how would he have caught it?!). TIA!

Also, are me and DH doomed to catch it??

Yep. It has to be exactly 48 hours. It can be contagious right up to that point.

My Mum had to stay away to protect my Dad, who would potentially be hospitalised if he caught it.

She stayed away for 46 hours, and because we were so close to the 48 hours, she decided to chance it. She caught it.

She stayed away from Dad, literally didn't stay in her bed for 48 hours, nobody else caught it.

@Ponocky 48 hours from last bout of D/V

Really annoys me when parents don’t stick to the 48 hour rule. It’s 36 hours at my daughters school and it seems there is always a vomiting bug going round.
Unfortunately with something like norovirus, the virus can live in a persons stools for up to two weeks. So schools really do need to promote handwashing more and regular cleaning.
My mum can never remember all these vomiting bugs when I was at school. They seem as common as the common cold these days.