to not want to pass on my skills for free?

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The background here is before I had children I worked at a higher level and a different field. I have one child so far. Have taken on a lower level position which I enjoy but is not as challenging. It has good flexible working options.

Quite a few staff including some recent recruits are on a contract earning more than me (we are on bandings, they may earn £10k more per year for example). They are mostly younger, and male though not all.

I have been asked a few times if I could 'just' pass on some of my training / abilities to these staff, as managers (not necessarily those who recruited them, they were given them to manage) identify there is a gap between the employees' competency and what their jobs involve.

AIBU to feel a bit put out about this? I haven't got a problem with the concept of supporting colleagues. My job description doesn't exactly match what I do anyway and I acknowledge it is part of being at work that we share skills. This is more along the lines of 'could you just train them in Prince2'

I suppose my reluctance stems from feeling my skills are what give me my value in the workplace, and I have had to pay for a number of qualifications from my own pocket.

YANBU. I would look for a different job and once you have an offer use that to negotiate a pay rise based on your new training duties.

If they clearly still need the skills surely they should be willing to increase your banding to a more appropriate one and find a way of finding you a more challenging/suitable roll to fit in with your required flexibility.

Did you work for the same company before children?

No I am not an authorised/certified trainer

You should be paid extra for teaching responsibilities

I understand your reluctance. Could you ask for a pay rise (higher band?) if training is going to be part of your job? Or suggest you do it as a consultant on top of your normal job?

YANBU. Sharing skills is one thing, but at the moment you are providing 'free' training, that you brought in from outside your role, at a low pay grade. They've got a sweet deal!

If you have time within your current role to break off to train others in quite large and demanding skill sets, then why not suggest you formalise a training element into your role for a reasonable salary increase. That way your employer might see what they’re expecting of you.

YANBU, they want your knowledge but don’t want to pay you for it!

Tell them to stuff it.

I can understand why you'd be pissed off about this but instead of silently seething, why not take a proposal to your boss that involves you adding training responsibility to your job description along with a commensurate pay increase? That could be a win/win for everyone, especially if the training is valuable to the company and you're cheaper than an outside provider.

But if this is something that would just take you a couple of hours of presentation then I would say UABU and should just do it to be a team player (but from your description it sounds much more involved than this).

Show them how to do it all wrong.

YANBU.

Employers will take the piss and try and save money when they can.

I’ve 100% been innyiur situation and it made me hate my much loved job and leave

Who's asking you? Can you ask if a pay review could be done along with recognising your value as a trainer.

That or offer a private one day skills training workshop to your colleagues on one of your days off, at an affordable price but which reflects your value.

I am massively in favour of women clarifying their value in the workplace and ensuring their skills and experience aren;t devalued unde rressure to 'be nice' because they are female. Just be super professional and fair. They can't complain.

Say that if you are having to train them, then you should be on more money than them pro-rata. Don't undervalue yourself.

Not a chance would I do this - they are massively taking the piss.

it's a question of valuing yourself and your skills in a really confident way and then communicating a sense of that value to the men around you so that you become a sought-after guru.

easier said than done but somehow you need to use this to raise your status.

we need @xenia to advise you I think.

sometimes saying "I'm not supposed to have to do this, it's not fair unless I am paid for it" can sound a bit wingy.

whingey

‘Yes, absolutely I will consider training up these members of staff - please drop the new contract/job description/pay grade for me to undertake this new role on my desk and we can discuss it’

Don’t do this for free! I remember temping as a student for something like £6 an hour years ago and the MD of the company asked me if I’d translate various documents for him once he discovered I was fluent in various European languages. I refused!

You're meant to train "new" recruits who are on £10K more than you.

I'd be completely hacked off too.

However, what is the best way to "refuse" this, or negotiate yourself a payrise, without appearing "arsey".

You could say, you would like this "extra responsibility added to your contract and be renumerated accordingly?" by email - in a completely neutral and clear way - as its its the most obvious thing on earth.

They can say - yes. And then you can negotiate £ and contract.

They can say - no. But they can't sack you for making this point. Or presumbably for refusing to take on other duties. As you are on a lower wage anyway, what can be lost. You could then start looking for new employment elsewhere?*

*You could get some "employment lawyer" advice. It might cost you a few hundered pounds, but save/make you much more in the long run.

Thank you yes I don't want to seem whingey and the way it is presented as 'just', it might make me seem U to ask for something in return... but they wouldn't be asking if it wasn't valuable to them, and it seems to make those employees who then know how to these things (for example, write a business case) more valuable and more likely to get promoted themselves (along with other skills they have and their performance etc)

Ask for a raise. I would not be doing this, although your employer may make things difficult for you.

your NOT being unreasonable OP

you're