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To think the suggestion someone (child) will be stabbed within 12 months at a local grammar school?

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takenitall · 22/07/2018 16:58

Top grammar school warned by police that pupil will die within a year

dailym.ai/2O8hyZ5

Is this provocative journalism?
What do you think?
I think this is bonkers

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Donothingsaynothing · 22/07/2018 17:28

Worryingly this may be the case. There has recently been a year 10 expelled from my ds's super selective grammar for selling drugs (not Kent). Don't know any details though or where on earth he got them from.

BertrandRussell · 22/07/2018 17:35

Are you saying that you are surprised that a child was expelled from your super selective for selling drugs? Which bit surprises you?

Imchlibob · 22/07/2018 17:35

Here's a Times Article on the same story for the MNers who refuse to rise to daily mail click bait. www.thetimes.co.uk/article/police-tell-top-grammar-to-expect-killing-of-a-pupil-as-gangs-spread-cr30z8vmd

takenitall · 22/07/2018 17:47

@Imchlibob thanks, I am going to read that now- I found the article provocative and it made the headmaster out to be thick (which i don't know if he is or isn't)

@BertrandRussell your comment is edgy.
I am not suggesting anything. I don't like the idea of grammar school. At 11 it is too young to cut people out based on their brains.

What I will say is I am not from the UK as such but I have lived in Thanet for 5 years. It's not as posh as I would like but it's hardly gang land. It's more like deprived families trying to sort it out not gangs of kids stabbing each other and that was my point

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Metoodear · 22/07/2018 17:51

If you live in London have a son with a phone they are at risk I am afraid this is not a black issue as many white middle class mums think

Ask any Scottish or north Irish mum

We watched a documentary on knee capping a in NI yesterday and the surgeon said they have gone up 200% and it’s mainly 15-23 their are very few black Boys in NI

SquirmOfEels · 22/07/2018 17:54

Two pupils expelled for dealing at my DC's very sought-after school not so long ago.

Drugs, gangs, violent crime often go together, and could turn up in any school

Rebecca36 · 22/07/2018 18:00

Well there is such a thing as a self fulfilling prophecy which, if I was head teacher at that school, would try to achieve the opposite.

It may well be true though. I was imagining myself as I was when I was a teenager at a selective school and, from reading that article, the idea of being a drug mule might have appeared quite glamourous. Especially for a girl who knows nothing at all about the dark and dangerous drug world.

So - my conclusion is - well - typical Daily Mail.

Takenitall, kids are not sidelined if they don't get into grammar school, there are plenty of opportunities for those prepared to put in the effort. Some comprehensive schools are amazing, there's one quite near me that has happy kids and achieves high grades. Sixth form colleges are great too.

Don't we all know people who in adulthood have got on better than us materially :-), who wasn't anything special at school?

There's also the possibility of trying for a grammar school at 13. The 13+ exam I think they call it.

It's very important to encourage children, boost their confidence and not worry if they fail an exam. We don't want them to feel like failures.

BertrandRussell · 22/07/2018 18:20

In the town where I live, drugs are an issue with kids from all types of school- we have grammar, secondary modern and private. There have been drug related expulsions from all types. Parents sometimes think grammar or private will protect their children from drugs- sadly that is not true.

BertrandRussell · 22/07/2018 18:22

And no, very few of them are innocent dupes- that is a distinctly antiquated view.

argumentativefeminist · 22/07/2018 18:24

Kids with more money have more opportunities, that goes for certain types of criminal behaviour just as much as it does for getting internships etc.

ShawshanksRedemption · 22/07/2018 18:41

This was also happening years ago (eighties), with a couple of boys being expelled from the local Grammar for dealing. Gang culture (in the way of knife crime) wan't as rife then, but dealers were using younger people to shift stuff for them.

FlaviaAlbia · 22/07/2018 18:45

@Metoodear what? Confused You won't be kneecapped in NI for having a phone or gang related issues.

Non payment of drug debt, stealing the wrong persons car, selling drugs while cutting out the paramilitaries, then possibly.

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