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To think I’ve raised her wrong and want to shake her so hard?!

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Raisedherwrong · 21/07/2018 13:17

Name changed for this and apologies, it’s a long one!

My DD (22) left home last year and moved into a private rent flat closer to her work.
Around the same time she started seeing someone new, a local lad aged 20.
Within a few weeks it got to the point where she was annoyed with him because he’d lost his job and taken to spending all day every day at her flat, even while she went out to work. He’d ‘stay over’ most nights, say in the morning that he’d go home ‘later’ but still be sat in the flat, watching her TV, drinking her tea and eating her food when she got home from work.
(He lives with his foster mum who has fostered him since he was a baby)
Money soon became a problem because she doesn’t earn much and he wasn’t earning at all, he also refused to apply for job seekers allowance because ‘he’d get a job soon anyway’
So an argument started because she told him to go home to his mum’s and that she couldn’t afford to pay for them both anymore. They weren’t going out due to having no money and a life like this is not what she wanted.
He grabbed her arm and shouted in her face that he was looking for work and it wasn’t his fault she was ‘so fucking stupid and boring’ and implied that it was her fault that they weren’t going out and having fun anymore. This, literally less than 2 months after she started seeing him!
She ‘went to the shop’ and phoned me to tell me. My DP went round to her flat and this lad made threats ‘I’ll smash your head in’ (to my DP) ‘smash the flat up’ ‘burn the flat down’ etc.
Anyway, DP eventually got him to collect anything of his and drove him to his mums, told him to stay away or the police will be called.

Had a few conversations with my DD since, along the lines of how lucky she was to have realised what he was like and got rid of him when she did. Me telling her how proud I was that she’d stood up to him, albeit with her stepdad’s help. Especially as her father and I split up due to DV when she was 9, she remembers and hates her father as a result.

They split up at the end of January.

She phoned me one day last week and announced that she’s 18 weeks pregnant, and that the baby is his!
She’s been lying to us all this time about not seeing him because she ‘knew we wouldn’t be happy’ but she hopes that we can get to a point where we can forget about what happened and move on because there is going to be a baby now.
She came out with all this stuff about how he acted like he did because it’s very demoralising to be out of work and how his upbringing wasn’t the best due to him being fostered, his ‘real’ family are awful and he’s ‘a bit messed up’ because of that.
But he’s got a job now, is seeing a counsellor (I don’t believe that bit for some reason)

What am I supposed to do now? This is my first grandchild. She wants us to all get along for the sake of the baby. They’re moving in together soon and they’re going to ba a ‘happy little family’ she says.
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I thought I’d raised a strong, independent young lady who wouldn’t ever get involved with someone like him, but here we are Sad

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Bananalanacake · 21/07/2018 13:32

That must be awful. Does he definitely have a job. I also hate the idea of moving in too quickly. I've always given it 5 years, any sooner you just don't know them well enough.

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nocoolnamesleft · 21/07/2018 13:33

Oh hell. Domestic violence tends to ramp up during pregnancy.

What can you do? Sound off on here, for the sake of your sanity, then do you best to keep channels open with your DD, so that she comes to you when this nasty piece of work shows his true colours. Again.

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nocoolnamesleft · 21/07/2018 13:36

And yes, it does sound like he had a crap start in life. I'd actually forgive quite a bit for that. But not violence/threats of violence.

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arranfan · 21/07/2018 13:36

You know how this will turn out, I'm so sorry.

Keep the channels open so that she can be honest with you. As PP says, DV tends to increase during pregnancy and she may be in for an horrendous shock quite soon.

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RJnomore1 · 21/07/2018 13:38

Oh my god. This is the type of thing my oldest does (keeping seeing him )but thankfully no pregnancy as she's extremely career focused and it's tough enough without one.

She is only 18 though and I'm hoping she's growing out of it.

No advice just a hand hold and a comradely hug if you need one.

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letsdolunch321 · 21/07/2018 13:39

Sounds like your dd is set on keeping the baby.

All you can do is be there for her, the relationship is unlikely to last due to daughters partner being a selfish, unpredictable idiot.

From reading what you have written your daughter is seeing it all as a new chapter with the idiot and a beautiful baby on board. As we all know life is not like that. He will show his true colours again soon.

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AWomanIsAnAdultHumanFemale · 21/07/2018 13:39

I’d pretend to forgive and forget and do whatever it took to keep my DD in my life. He will hurt her again and she will need your help. She needs to feel able to ring you when that’s happens. As hard as it will be, you will be doing the best and safest thing for to DD to accept this and just make sure she can still come to you. Horrible situation, I know you want to string him up.

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Maypole245 · 21/07/2018 13:40

Hi OP, i’m Sure much more experienced posters will be on soon, but I just wanted to say that abuse can happen to anyone, even strong and independent young women. So, try not to blame your daughter - or yourself - for the situation. That’s not a dig, i’m sorry for what you are going through.

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3luckystars · 21/07/2018 13:41

I know how hard it is to watch someone you love in an abusive relationship, but it wasn’t my child, so it must be a nightmare for you now.

But look, if she is like you, she will get away from him and hopefully she will have a great life with her baby in the future.

I’m so sorry if that’s unhelpful or a stupid thing to say, I’m just hoping the silver lining is that she has experience herself and will recognise it and get away from him once the baby arrives.

I wish you all the best.

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Stillme1 · 21/07/2018 13:42

This must be terribly worrying for you. Could DD not be a single parent for a good while before she commits to living with the father. He has sponged from her before and now it looks like he could end up sponging on the baby's Child Allowance.
I understand why you say you "must have raised her wrongly" I know what it is like to have someone sponging on me which was bad but at least I got rid of him. I find it much worse to be watching my own DC working all hours while the partner does nothing. Not even housework or child care. It is angering but until the DC realises what is going on I don't think you will have much hope of getting through to her. Sorry!

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Snowysky20009 · 21/07/2018 13:45

All you can do is be there for her and help pick up the pieces if or when it all goes wrong.

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thirdtrimesterandfedup · 21/07/2018 13:48

Hi I went through kind of similar thing same age as your dd as-well. However I was living in his flat so had total control of me and my income!
Anyway I went on to having my son but I managed to get away from him.

Just let her learn from her own mistakes and be there for her she is lucky to have you! I didn't even tell my mum I was going through all this.

I was a single parent for a good year and I loved it. I introduced ds to his dad but it just didn't work out so we haven't seen him since.

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LittleCandle · 21/07/2018 13:50

Its hideous. I was in a similar situation. He wasn't violent that I know of towards her, but was a cocklodger of the first water. She got pregnant by stupidity accident and within days of her telling me, he had locked her out of her flat and she was leaving him and having a termination.

Two and a bit years down the line, he walked out on her 48 hours before they were making a big move to get a better lifestyle. DD is better off without him, but still engages in his fuckwittery too much. My DGD has come on in leaps and bounds since he vanished off the scene, but there was nothing I could say while she was still with him, as that made me the bad person.

You did not raise her wrongly. She has just had her head turned. I'm afraid that all you can do is keep communication open and be prepared to pick up the pieces when it all falls apart, as it will. I hope and pray that DV does not raise its ugly head. Flowers

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Raisedherwrong · 21/07/2018 13:52

@Bananalanacake she insists he’s working but is very vague on the details, so I’m guessing not.

@nocoolnamesleft the dv ramping up in pregnancy has me very worried. If she’s lied to us all this time, would she lie if he hit her?
I was very careful not to sound against this in any way when she told me, just acted surprised but happy about the baby and asked questions about him, feigning interest rather than distrust. I’m so worried for her, and now for the baby too.

@arranfan yes, sadly I do Sad talk about history repeating! I honestly thought she wouldn’t ever get with someone like him.
There’s still a room here for her if she ever needed it and I’ve made sure to remind her of that.

@RJnomore1 Thank you, I hope that your daughter does grow out of it. This is fucking horrendous Sad

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Theimpossiblegirl · 21/07/2018 13:55

You haven't raised her wrong, she is obviously a very caring thing lady who wants to see the best in people. It's a shame people aren't always nice.

I agree, keep channels open, act nice, be there for her, he has been violent before, he may be again.

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Ginger1982 · 21/07/2018 13:56

I would be furious OP, absolutely furious and I would have it out with her. Then I would calm down and be there for her as much as you can. This doesn't sound as though it will end well.

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ParkheadParadise · 21/07/2018 13:56

I went through something similar with my dd.
It ended badly.
All you can do is be there for her unfortunately.

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viques · 21/07/2018 13:59

I wonder if they have really looked at the financial implications of living together post baby, if she has worked for less than a year she is unlikely to get much in the way of paid maternity leave from work, so unless his wage is generous enough to support all three of them comfortably finding and renting a flat is going to be a struggle, let alone paying for utilities and council tax. If she needs to get back to work they also need to factor in childcare costs.

It might put a strain on your relationship with her, but I think you need to have talk about finances . I would be reluctant to be the bank of mum and dad , even if you can afford to, because it sounds as though her useless boyfriend will see that as an excuse to be even more of an idle tosser than he appears to be now.

I don't envy you OP, I think there are going to be hard times ahead for all of you.

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Oliversmumsarmy · 21/07/2018 14:05

You couldn't persuade her just for your own piece of mind to do the Freedom programme.

Make it a way of saying that you will forgive and forget but just so she recognises things might be perfect in the future but at some point they might not be so you just want to protect her with a little bit of knowledge

My friend wished she had known about it years before because the Red Flags were waving at her she just was completely blind to them

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Arum51 · 21/07/2018 14:14

As a pp said, DV can happen to anyone. These bastards are charm itself when it suits them, as you know from your own experience. Once they've got their hooks in you (and pregnancy is a definite hook, I'd lay money this was no accident) it becomes incredibly difficult to see things clearly. This isn't really about how you raised her. It's about how she was unlucky enough to encounter an abusive man.

As others have said, this is a very risky situation, and you need to try and keep the lines of communication open. The main reason for this is actually your grandchild. Your daughter is now a grown woman, and is making her own choices, no matter how unwise those choices may be. Your grandchild is totally vulnerable, and has no option but to be born into a violent relationship.

At the first sign of trouble, you are going to have to have the courage to phone social services about the risk to your grandchild. Flowers

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frami · 21/07/2018 14:17

As previous posters have said re: keeping the lines of communication open. However I would like to add ignore the excuse of his upbringing. The man I hope one day to call my Son in Law had a similar upbringing but has a degree, job etc is polite, thoughtful and would never abuse anyone mentally or physically.

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SilverDoe · 21/07/2018 14:18

Don't be furious with her :( At least not to her face - it wont help and it will only drive her to him. Look after her best you can and check on her regularly. Keep reminding her she can come home whenever she needs to - I imagine she will understand why you are saying this. If you can calmly talk to her at some point in weeks to come about DV then please do so - but you know her and you will be better able to predict how she will react to that. It must be devastating to know first hand that he is violent and aggressive :(

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Jackyjill6 · 21/07/2018 14:24

I'm not sure why people are making excuses for his upbringing when the OP states he was with the same foster carer since he was a baby.

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Allthewaves · 21/07/2018 14:25

You push it all down. Stick massive smile on your face and welcome him to the family. The old saying 'keep your friends close but your enemies closer'. Tell her it's a clean slate and a fresh start. Take.T slowly. She's much more likely to come to you if you show no agro to the bf

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Allthewaves · 21/07/2018 14:27

Don't keep making suggestions like you can come home. Tell her you will support her decisions and if it's him then that's OK. You need to stay very neutral and play long game

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