To be deflated at Ds KS2 SATs results even though he passed them all....

[RockYourSocksOff]

As with maths he just got through by the skin of his teeth and I know he can do better.

I also know that even though High School do their own tests, his SATs score will be a benchmark for his future GCSEs so will stick with him throughout his time there, in some form or another.

Don’t get me wrong, I AM proud of him but the more I hear of other dc results and the more I look at the ‘raw scores’ I know he really did just about get the ‘magic’ number.

He did better in SPAG and Reading but not ‘greater depth’ better, a point off GD in reading (I think) and 2 points in SPAG (on the scaled score) although that’s depending on the score being 110 for GD.

I’ve posted on here because I want you to tell me I’m being an arse because I am but still, I can’t help the way I feel.

Those who say SATs don’t matter, well they do don’t they?

SATS are a load of rubbish and should be banned, they just pile pressure on everyone. This is not a measure of your child's value, just a target for the govt

But it is a measure isn’t it, high school will use these results until his GCSEs.

You know he’s 7, don’t you?

You are being an arse, yes. They don’t matter, that’s why the government have scrapped them. Just not quick enough for your son.

I’ve just realised you’ve put ks2, not year 2. Sorry. Hang on...

No they don't. They are just for the government to measure the school.

Don't give them another thought. They won't follow your son anywhere.

They are being scrapped in the next couple of years. Proof that they are not needed/ used.

Crikey, is your son happy with his scores? What a lot of pressure he must be feeling, I do hope you have given him nothing but praise for his efforts (although I’m sure u probably have).
I’m in Scotland, so our kids don’t sit SATs, so cant give u my perspective on how they affect the rest of their lives, but I can say that so much changes in their lives once they reach high school. Lay off worrying about the scores, he passed, so no need to fret. Support him and let him follow his own path. Xx

well, trying to be positive, at least his school wont be applying unrealistic pressure on him to meet targets set on scores that are too high.

Id be a bit surprised if they held him back and stopped him overachieving as more progress will still look good for their stats

You actually take these this seriously?

As a secondary teacher, I reckon it’s better to be mediocre in your sats. All your GCSE targets are based on them. High flying sats results = mega GCSE targets = mega pressure.

BUT, schools need to add value to pupils. So, if you think he could have done better, that will come out in year 7 and teachers will think “hang on, he could do really well here” and all of a sudden he will get all the help under the sun because his progress 8 score will be fab. Without the added pressure of having to achieve targets he can’t get.

Honestly, the thing I hope for most for my kids is that they slightly bomb out on their KS2 sats

Exactly what @PotteringAlong said!

I have thought that if his score was amazing and at GD then throughout High School he would have high expectations on his shoulders.

He’s possibly at the level he’s most comfortable with, therefore he can improve on this rather than having to prove himself all the time.

Argh.

Pottering, thank you.

I hope his future high school is of the same opinion.

Once at secondary they will set eventually according to ability and assess regularly! A qualified teacher isnt going to just look at sats and think thats it! Sats are crazy. Id like to homeschool for year 6 and go travelling....

@ittooshallpass not strictly true. All gcse targets at High school will be based on Sats.

His primary school will want him to do well so that they look good in league tables.
His secondary school will be happy that he has underperformed so that his actual results in GCSE etc will make their school look better.
SATS only matter to the schools. Nobody will know his predicted grades apart from you and school.

Having a high predicted grade will put extra pressure on him during secondary. It's much better to have a low predicted grade and perform better than that grade.

If the school set on SATS then don't worry because people move up and down sets all the time.

Ds asked me how I’d done at SATs!

I left Primary in ‘82! No stress!

I despise SATe. My year 10s have been set according to the target they need to hit based on their GCSE grades. Doesn’t matter that they might have dropped/improved significantly since coming to high school. All our targets are set of SATs. Bullshit. I have kids who have worked their arses off for four years placed in a mid to bottom set because they tanked a math test when they were 11. Despite the fact that their current grades show their true ability.

We re test in high school but can’t really do fuck all with our own baselines because Sets need to reflect the target grade.

I’m a teacher.
He’s passed. Don’t take it all so seriously.
It’s more to see how the school is getting on.
Do you imagine he will be asked about them at interviews?
Chill out.

My daughter just got passes on hers and I am thrilled for her. Chill about it

Secondary teacher here. Portering is absolutely right.

They mean nothing in high school. Honestly if he gets better as he gets older the high school will just take the credit as he improves their value added. My ds didn’t do wonderful in his SATS level 4s as the grade was the. High school tested him and set his expectations at grade c in GCSEs, all subjects, but they pushed him and engaged him and he found he liked high school better than primary and he worked. He ended up with 10 GCSEs a* to c and school got 4 or 5 levels of improvement to show they were a good school. Don’t worry let him find his own level without that pressure.

Secondary teacher here- underperforming in his SATS is a gift which will mean he spends secondary exceeding his targets and generally all will be lovely. I’ve got a girl who has a target of a 6 and regularly gets 9s in chemistry- clearly she just had a bad day in year 6 for some reason. It just means her data is followed by a halo of happiness.

The only issue might be if he starts off in a significantly lower set than he should be in, but the school should reassess year 7s by Christmas and just check for anomalies like this, and move him up.

Tunnocks, this is what I was feeling pretty deflated for.

This could shape his future.

Even if he does better in the high school tests, does it really mean that much?

I think it’s a worthy question once he settles into high school.

On the one hand I wouldn’t want huge pressure on him during his time there but equally I wouldn’t want any progress he’s made to not mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

Why do they base so much on these SATs.

Tunnock that's crazy! The schools here have assured us they reset each year or as necessary depending on progress!

I’m thankful for the secondary school teacher comments on here.

It’s good to get your views on this.