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Not to reply to SMIL

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TheHerd · 18/07/2018 21:27

A few months ago DH and I had a skype call with his Dad and Step mum which turned slightly heated. Long story short, there have been some NC with members of the family from DH and his step mum brought it up in front of our young children and continued to speak about it though we asked her to stop at is was not the time or place.

DH spoke to his dad a couple of weeks later and we all welcomed the idea to put everything behind us .

A few days ago, FIL and SMIL came to visit. We were feeling slightly apprehensive as we hadn't properly spoken since the heated skype call (apart from DH and FIL brief phone call). DH opened the door and was greeted by his dad (kiss and hug as usual) greeted me and walked through, his step mum greeted DH and as I leant out to greet her she looked at me, turned her head up and walked straight past me.

The whole visit felt awkward. We tried to keep conversation flowing as best we could. SMIL didn't remove her sunglasses until near the end of their visit and didn't touch any food I had laid out (she may have not been hungry which is fair enough!) What little conversation she had with me felt cold and disinterested. DH felt the same. It seemed she would rather be anywhere else but there.

As they got up to leave and we walked them to the door, I was quite a few steps behind, by the time I reached the front door SMIL had already left and half way down the drive. FIL kissed my cheek and said goodbye and as he left SMIL shouted "bye TheHerd".
DH said she kissed and hugged him goodbye.

DH was unhappy with how the visit went and how rude SMIL had been towards me (and him at times) in our own home.
He sent his dad a message saying..

'I thought we had all agreed we wanted this rattiness to stop between us. SMIL not greeting or saying goodbye to TheHerd properly was incredibly rude of her. It doesn't hurt to use some manners or be polite to someone even if you don't particularly like someone especially in their own home. We made time for you both and that is not how I want my wife to be treated.'

She replied back saying..

I must admit I was feeling apprehensive about meeting up after all that has happened but I came away feeling that today had gone pretty well. Obviously that is not how you see it and as I have no wish to upset anyone I think it is easier your Dad visits on his own in the future. I certainly did not mean to give the impression I was ignoring The Herd and I most certainly did call out goodbye, my mother brought me up to be polite to my hosts. I sincerely wish you, TheHerd and (childrens names) a long and happy life together.

So, are we being unreasonable not to reply to her? DH thinks she wants us to call her bluff. I find this behaviour exhausting as I cant begin to imagine not wanting to watch my future grandchildren grow up.
Honestly at times it has been a difficult relationship between the three of us DH, SMIL and me. SMIL has gone to her own health visitor about the way we raise our baby (attachment/co sleeping etc) and was one of the first things she mentioned as she visited one day. DH from the beginning has told me that other members of the family find DMIL difficult at times. I always have taken a step back until the skype call where I stood up for DH and some hard decisions he has made in his life regarding NC.
What to do...

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OkMaybeNot · 18/07/2018 22:50

I personally would reply "Ok! See you around x"

People like her fucking love the drama. Don't bother with it.

VulvaOfSteel · 18/07/2018 22:54

She's not related to yo.
She's not related to your dh.

She doesn't seem to like either of you.

Why bother messaging?

gorgeoushazydaysofsummer · 18/07/2018 23:02

Why does your smil have a health visitor?! I thought they were just for babies.

It’s not clear who’s at fault here as you and smil seem to have different memories if what happened. Did your h see her ignoring you too?

Sounds like a pretty dysfunctional family if dh is already NC with his sisters... i’d Take a step back and let dh and his dad meet up.

TheHerd · 18/07/2018 23:10

Yes I thought they were for babies too! DH and I thanked her for caring but there is no need to worry about how we raise our children. (it was all very bizarre!)

DH and FIL both saw her turn and walk past me when she entered the house and were both standing inside by the front door when she was out down the drive.

Of course DH and FIL should meet up by themselves but I definitely want to continue a relationship with FIL and him with the grandchildren too.

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Passingwords · 18/07/2018 23:10

Either ignore or if you feel pressure on you to respond, just put "x" and she can read it however she likes. Then don't contact again and let them get on with it, she's hassle so move away from it and enjoy your baby

Italiangreyhound · 18/07/2018 23:14

Agree with others. Leave it now. In time she may change her mind. But she is the one suggesting she not contact you so that seems fine as her choice. She may change her mind or not.

OP if you have anxiety, please can I suggest you see the doctor, if you have not. I had anxiety 20 plus years ago and I visited the GP and got Cognitive Behavior Therapy which cured it.

Oraiste · 18/07/2018 23:23

You say DH and FIL have been in touch since and no mention of SMIL. I wonder if FIL knows about her message? If not then she could be saying anything about why she is not on contact which could be detrimental to DH and Fils relationship.

TheHerd · 18/07/2018 23:30

I assume FIL does know about SMIL message as she used his phone?

SMIL uses FIL phone sometimes (she does have her own).

What do you think she could be saying that could be detrimental?

Thank you for the CBT advice, I went when I was a teenager and will look into taking some more!

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KC225 · 18/07/2018 23:34

Gosh she sounds like hard work. Sounds a bit like she engineered it. And its great that your DH has your back. I agree though, don't feed the beast. Ignore it but save your text and her response as I think the truth will be twisted further along the line.

I think it will require an effort to stay in touch FIL. But it will be worth it a and it siybds as if it will be more relaxed without her.

Is there any possibility of your DH making it up with his sisters?

melonscoffer · 18/07/2018 23:59

Has anyone asked your FIL how he feels on this issue?
She's his wife and if I get this accurately the mother of his younger children.

melonscoffer · 19/07/2018 00:03

No they don't have their own children.
Sorry, your thread is pretty full of relatives Grin

melonscoffer · 19/07/2018 00:06

Shame for your father in law that she said all this.
He might tell her to stop being an arse and start joining in the family.

I also noted that she greeted you husband but not you, she's just a nasty cow.
Perhaps doesn't like women and is jealous no matter what.

melonscoffer · 19/07/2018 00:08

You cannot, cannot, assume that your father in law has seen this text.
She could easily delete after sending.
Show it to him, in person. Do not forward it , show it to him.
See what he thinks.

PolkaHots · 19/07/2018 00:32

I am not sure what she’s done that’s all that bad to be honest.

kateandme · 19/07/2018 01:13

just make sure you now keep the lines of communication an visits open with the fil.as it would be all too easy for him to fall nc with her.even if he doesn't mean to.this might too require you having to sometimes feel like ur making more of an effort to get him round etc but hed love that youd do that for him.
let things be how they will be wit you smil.she will or she wont come in and out of ur lives from now on.but as long as you got fil and its all ok there then that's a great thing to keep hold of.
it must have taken lots for you all to make this step and it will get better.and brilliant from him too especially if his mrs was silently poo pooing it.

wafflyversatile · 19/07/2018 01:22

Sounds like a win really. I suggest taking her at her word and just seeing fil

SherbetSorbet · 19/07/2018 01:31

It all sounds very petty tbh.

BedtimeTea · 19/07/2018 04:00

I'd be fine with not replying.

I'd actually want to test her by inviting fil over for dinner, and see if she comes along.

londonrach · 19/07/2018 06:25

Perfect solution. Just ignore message

underneaththeash · 19/07/2018 06:41

I think her reply was fine. You clearly don't get on and she wants to make sure that you and DH have a relationship with his father still, especially if you're both not speaking to his sisters.

How you decide to parent your children is no-one else business but your own, but if I was a MIL I would be saying something too if a tiny grandchild was being put at risk by unsafe sleep practices.

Sisgal · 19/07/2018 06:52

I think it was you and your H in the wrong tbh

onalongsabbatical · 19/07/2018 07:17

OP, do you feel able to say a bit more about why DH is nc with his sisters? It feels like relevant info that's left out.

Thymeout · 19/07/2018 07:31

You say DH is nc with his sisters. Does SMIL blame you for that? Was she trying to heal the breach in the Skype call? I'd like to hear her version of what happened. If she thought you were stopping DH reconciling with his sisters, that would explain her coolness towards you. It sounds as if she feels she is in the middle and doesn't want to be disloyal to her SDs.

As far as the message goes, I'd leave it to DH to reply. He really needs to sort out the problem with his sisters. Going nc is s short-term fix which causes umpteen problems further down the line.

TheHerd · 19/07/2018 09:28

Sorry for leaving out lots of information in the first post. It was getting very long and I didn't want it to be pages worth.

So, FIL and SMIL have no children together.
One of DH sisters went NC with him and we haven't heard from her for a couple of years now. Other sister DH went NC with. This was all decided by DH and for months I was pushing him into trying to sort out his relationship with them. Not realising I was contributing to him suffering and he needed to go to counselling. So from then on I was supportive in whatever decision he decided he needed to do. I do not see DH no longer going NC with them. Some time has past and he has said he feels calmer and happier with them no longer part of his life.

He has a disability which a year ago pretty much cost him his job (we have legally dealt with this), no longer able to work and I am his carer. Everyone is aware of this.

During the skype call which was going well, his SMIL started speaking about his sister who was expecting a baby. DH said he did not want to speak about it here due to children being around and can speak about it privately. SMIL then turned to me and questioned why I was not pushing him to sort out his relationship with his sisters. I reminded her that I was at the beginning pushing (and perhaps too hard) for DH to sort it out which had played a detrimental effect on his mental health and disability. SMIL was not happy with my answer and continued where I then took the children and left the room with them so DH could have the skype call privately.

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TruffleShuffles · 19/07/2018 09:40

To be honest if my last contact with someone was confrontational I don’t think I would walk into their house being all lovey dovey either, do you think maybe SMIL felt uncomfortable? Maybe she’s suggested NC as she has seen you have already done this with DH sisters and it’s a solution to problems you are happy with.

I think you maybe need to decide how quickly you want to go NC with her as like others have mentioned it will probably start to push FIL away which will leave DH with NC with any of his family.

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