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How did I Fail so badly?!

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StressedMum18 · 18/07/2018 20:06

Name changed for this, but regular poster.

My DD 18 has just left the house. Today has been the final straw for both of us in terms of her attitude and behaviour.

About 4 weeks ago (end of A Levels) she suddenly turned from a typical teenager/young adult, to a rude, ungrateful, spoilt girl.

For context, she has a part time job and I work full time. She takes home over £500 a month. She has no outgoings. I pay for: her monthly bus pass, mobile phone bill, and food. She pays no rent (have never asked). All I have asked is that she does her chore each day like her siblings (either empty dishwasher, tidy living room, or tidy bathrooms). That’s it.
For 4 weeks she’s either not done her chore, or been incredibly rude when I’ve asked her to do so.

She’s also been rude pretty much every time I try and talk with her. Every thing I say she gives a sarcastic response to, every time I ask her how her day has been she grunts and walks off, every time one of her siblings says hello she ignores them......the list goes on.

She’s going on holiday at the beginning of August. She’s known about this for 6 months. Her passport expired in April, and I kept telling her she needed to get a new form from the Post Office and get her photos done. She didn’t. I also told her she needs to help pay for it. I kept reminding her, but she did nothing. In the end, I got the forms, got them countersigned along with her photos and got her to fill it in. I took it to the Post Office to send, but she’d done it wrong (I did try and help, but she’s an adult now and could do it on her own apparently). I got new forms, got those signed, and gave her £50 towards it. She snatched it off me and went to her room - no thank you. She only sent it off yesterday. I’d be surprised if it comes back in time.

She was paid 2 weeks ago, and Sunday was moaning she has no money left for holiday. I’m not surprised, with the amount of clothes deliveries that arrive daily, along with takeaway orders. Stupidly I said she could come and work for me for a few days (she’s on the payroll). Monday she came in. Helped for a bit, then fell asleep for 2 hours because she felt ‘ill’. She did minimal work.
Yesterday she came in (despite me saying I didn’t need her). She proceeded to speak to me like crap in front of my staff, and moaned when I asked her to grab something from the sodding printer. It was embarrassing. I even took her to one side, and told her that if she was my employee I would have fired her by now.

Today, I get home from work. Ask her how her day was. First thing she says is that she brought Nando’s! I asked why if she has no money and she immediately started shouting at me telling me she’s an adult and can do what she likes.
I went to the supermarket to have a break, and she sends me a huge email telling me that I’m the worst mother in the world, I don’t respect her, I don’t care for her, and when I’m ready to apologise for my behaviour she will listen.
I returned (didn’t apologise) and she started shouting about when I treat her like my child, she will treat me like her mum.

She’s now packed her bags and gone to ‘live’ with the cool uncle.

I honestly can’t win. We have family time, she doesn’t want to come. We go out for lunch, nope, doesn’t want to go. I offer to go for a drive or walk to talk, nope, I’m being unreasonable expecting her to get dressed so quickly.

She has a good social life, she has friends (also lost some because she’s so opinionated), and enjoys her work.

I don’t understand why she’s suddenly changed. All I can think of is the fact that she’s stressing over her exams and Uni. Either that, or I’ve massively failed at parenting big time.

Gosh, sorry that’s so long! Any advice gratefully received!

OP posts:
21jumpstreet · 18/07/2018 20:51

She’s spoilt. Leave her to it.

LooksBetterWithAFilter · 18/07/2018 20:54

She is behaving like a much younger teenager she sounds like my ds1 who is 12. She wants to be treated like an adult but behaving like a child and you keep bailing her out so she has no reason to alter it.
You pay for her phone and her bus pass so she has £500 a month to blow on whatever she wants. Do you have that? She booked a holiday and didn’t bother to get her passport sorted and you have done it for her. She hasn’t got money I’m betting she expects you to solve that problem for her too.
If she is moving out make it clear she pays for her own stuff. I doubt her uncle no matter how cool will be expecting to support her while she blows her money on Nando’s. When she comes back stop doing all her washing and bailing her out. She needs to make her own mistakes and Keane from them.

Storminateapot · 18/07/2018 20:56

My daughter is currently waiting for A level results and is being uncharacteristically quite moody/snappy with me (but not the rest of the family) and a bit entitled/self-centred. We're very close usually and it's quite surprising.

She is going to uni on an unconditional offer, so results aren't an issue, I can only surmise that she's actually feeling quite conflicted & scared about leaving home and there's a real push/pull thing going on in her head with regard to her attitude to me because we are so close and will really miss each other.

She isn't being rude or nasty though, so I'm just trying to back off, let her know I love her & try to understand that she's doing it because she's scared that she has to grow up & fend for herself in a few weeks' time so she's trying to cut the apron strings in the only way an anxious 18 year old knows how.

GreenTulips · 18/07/2018 21:00

It’s the lack of respect that’s hurting me the most. I honestly don’t think it’s justified, and I love that girl more than anything

If you want respect then you have to be tough! She won't respect you if you keep bailing her out and rolling over every time she needs help - she needs to work things out for herself - and quick

SiolGhoraidh · 18/07/2018 21:06

'I’m really worried about her exams (and I think she is too). She declined an unconditional offer from her second choice uni (against my advice) to take a place needing 3 A (because a boy she liked was going there). She then did zero revision until 2 days before the exams.'

Try not to worry about the exams (I know, easier said than done). Even if her results aren't what she wants, there is clearing, and all sorts of courses open up.

Several of my Ranger Guides are waiting for results atm, and they're frankly awful to be around according to their parents, but in meetings they've been able to talk a bit about their fears, and get a sense of perspective from the older ones who have been there and done that, including one who resat some of her A levels to improve grades, and another who took a year out and then reapplied to uni.

Eliza9917 · 18/07/2018 21:07

She might be pregnant.

Dodie66 · 18/07/2018 21:08

She will find out how hard it is to live away from home and pay her way. Will her uncle pay for her food etc? If she has to pay she will soon find out what life is like when she has to support herself. Maybe you should have a word with I’m about getting her to pay him for her keep

Ellie56 · 18/07/2018 21:08

Yes stop paying for everything. She has £500 a month and should be paying for stuff herself and making a contribution to household expenses.

Aeroflotgirl · 18/07/2018 21:11

Stop enabling her, and start getting her to take responsibility fir her actions, she is an adult, she will never learn. Stop mollycoddling her.

Roussette · 18/07/2018 21:13

I'm sorry but.... why the heck are you paying for anything if she earns £500 a month? As soon as my DCs started p/t jobs and earning, they paid for everything except school or college stuff. That was mobile, music, entertainment, bus fare, clothes etc.

She knows she can walk all over you so she does. Of course you love her unconditionally but showing her you're tough with boundaries will work. Alongside that you give all the support she needs with her studies and help with Uni's etc but if you show weakness and give in (like with the passport and £50) she's going to do that sort of thing again and again.

Good luck

eddielizzard · 18/07/2018 21:19

Sounds to me like she knows she's fucked up her exams. And she turned down the unconditional offer so she's really stressed. No excuse of course, but let her go off to live with her cool uncle. Maybe he'll talk some sense into her. I probably would carry on paying the bus pass and phone, but otherwise stop bailing her out.

Seems like this behaviour has been going on for more than just a month if she didn't bother getting the passport forms in April. Seriously, you have to let her fail so that she understands you won't bail her out.

Don't give her money towards her holiday. Don't help her with her passport.

You have to let her fuck up. She will come back to you if you carry on treating her with respect and kindness. But no bailing out.

halfwitpicker · 18/07/2018 21:19

Stop enabling her. Stop paying for all the shit she doesn't need. She should have sorted her own passport. She needs to be responsible.

CaMePlaitPas · 18/07/2018 21:20

You sound like the kind of Mum any child would be lucky to have. This is just a phase with your daughter, she's acting like a right twat like we all did but it won't last forever. However, there needs to be ground rules set and I would say that you need to sit her down and talk to her like the adult she says she is. I am not sure about asking her to contribute financially - there will plenty of years in the future when she'll realise how hard it is out there without Mum and she'll count herself lucky if she can go on holiday! - but she needs to contribute with her respect and that includes talking to you properly, not grunting or shouting, and tidying up after herself. She's not pulling her weight - she has responsibilities towards herself, you and her environment and she needs to be reminded of this. I wouldn't be contributing anything to that holiday though. Good luck OP!

HettySunshine · 18/07/2018 21:27

My first thought is that she thinks she's failed her exams and is freaking out.

I'm not sure what the answer is as approaching her with that is likely to cause her to flip along the 'you have no faith in me.' line.

It's such a strange time the summer before uni. The excited/ terrified feeling is hard to deal with, especially if you're worried about your grades.

That doesn't excuse her behaviour though. I hope she's back home soon with her tail between her legs.

Chin up op, you sound like a brilliant mum.

Hygge · 18/07/2018 21:29

I think you need to start charging her for things.

Even if you then put that money to one side without telling her and give it back later on when she needs it.

She's old enough to pay a basic rent and do chores to help out.

She wants to be an adult but she also wants you to treat her like your child.

"she immediately started shouting at me telling me she’s an adult and can do what she likes."

"she started shouting about when I treat her like my child, she will treat me like her mum."

So she's an adult when it comes to doing what she wants, but your child when it comes to you doing what she wants.

Having her work at your business sounds like a bad idea too. Your staff will be resenting her laziness and you might lose good people because of her.

Hygge · 18/07/2018 21:31

And when I say give it back later on, I'm talking years later, not weeks.

Once she's had time to realise just how easy you've made things for her and how good she actually had it while she was feeling hard done by.

MissP103 · 18/07/2018 21:32

I think posters excusing her based on stressful exams is wrong. She can be stressed but still respectful. Sounds like she takes you completely for granted. Let her be the adult she wants, stop paying for all her luxuries. Theres plenty of people her age stressing about much bigger issues yet able to maintain respect. She needs a severe lesson.

User183737 · 18/07/2018 21:34

Just to say you havent failed, but with that income the most you should be treating her to is a takeaway!
(I was a twat at 18-i since got a bsc and masters and am doing a phd)

LifeImplosionImminent · 18/07/2018 21:53

She is earning good money! Gosh - if my two earned that they'd be paying rent!

I feel like you both will benefit from some space, she will hopefully grow up and you will get a nice breather. I'm going through the bastard, untidy, no money, no manners, complete lack of empathy, zero forethought, nowhere near a fully formed prefrontal cortex, arsehole daughter phase x 2 so I know exactly what you're going through...I'm hopefully sending one to uni next year - the eldest is a tamer version these days having dropped out of her first uni year but we still have epic battles.

Wdigin2this · 18/07/2018 21:55

I agree, firstly make sure the uncle isn't giving her money, or subsidising her in anyway. If her phone is in your name cancel it and stop paying for it.
When she comes back....and she will, tell her that you're going to treat her as an adult and therefore, she can now do all her own laundry, bed changing, and if she doesn't want what you've cooked, she can do her own.
When she asks you for money....and she will, tell her she can earn it (like adults do) by doing chores which you will price up accordingly, and check out before payment!

BewareOfDragons · 18/07/2018 21:59

Why oh why did you sort out her passport forms for her? WHy?!?!?!

I stopped there for the most part because my jaw just dropped.

She's 18 and treating you like crap ... while you continue to house her and do everything for her! Make her do her own shit! If she wants a holiday, she needs to sort out her own stuff! If she wants clothes, she needs to save and stop spending her money on crap! if she wants take out, don't entertain her complaints about having no money for her holiday!

She needs a big wake up call, and I hope 'cool' uncle doesn't cater to her and undermine her clear need to grow up. Enabling her shitty behaviour would be bad for her ... and he needs to be told as much.

Arum51 · 18/07/2018 22:08

She's just pushing you away because she's petrified she's fucked up her A Levels. She's pushing you away now, so she doesn't have to see the disappointment on your face in a few weeks. You hated her anyway! You were always overbearing! You expected too much! Blah blah.

It's just a phase. I'm guessing these are the most stressful weeks she's had in her life so far, and she is reacting badly. Once the A Levels come out and you all know what's going to happen, it will be fine.

Only another three weeks to go! Grin

billybagpuss · 19/07/2018 09:18

How are you this morning OP, have you heard from her?

For what its worth, and contrary to what a pp said. The situation you are going through is becoming much more normal, our teenagers today have so much pressure on them and mental health and anxiety is commonplace. Be grateful that she is taking out her anger and stress on the one person she knows will have to take it rather than choosing other far more extreme and dangerous outlets (often in addition to treating their parents like crap)

My kids are 19 and 21 and I know very few parents and families that haven't gone through this and much worse, and as we never know what goes on behind closed doors I would expect the others are less than the perfect facade that they portray to the outside world.

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