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Hand anyone had a child’s name changed via court order?

48 replies

NotUmbongoUnchained · 17/07/2018 18:47

If there is domestic violence involved then do you need the ex to be there?

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ArnoldBee · 17/07/2018 19:31

You need to speak to the passport team in Glasgow that deals with special circumstances for children.

HugAndRoll · 17/07/2018 19:35

Ah, my mum had my dad's consent so I must have a different document. Sorry :/

NotUmbongoUnchained · 17/07/2018 19:41

Isn’t Glasgow a separate office?

She’s spoken with the team at the passport office already. She phoned them before she made the application. It’s entirely down to the discretion of whoever processes the application.

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ArnoldBee · 17/07/2018 19:57

Has she spoken to the specialist team in Glasgow? If she hasn't she will have been talking to basic case workers that don't have the specialist knowkedge/magic wand waving powers.

hungryhippo90 · 17/07/2018 20:02

OP I got into a long post but I’ve lost it so trying to start again more to the point.

I sympathise it’s utterly shit, in fairly similar situation, petrified of going to count Incase it brings the wormy fucker out of the woodwork- we could all do without it! I had a breakdown because of the things he put me through.

On our way back from France we had an interaction with border force,

They seemed fairly happy that I could prove she was mine,

In a little wallet I keep her birth certificate, my birth certificate as it shows the name on her birth cert, my marriage certificate as it aligns with my passport, also handy to have any letter from Dr or school- if they’re in the name used on her deed poll have that too. They had a chuckle about me being organised.

Please tell her to prepare but not worry!

It is a shit though.

TorviBrightspear · 17/07/2018 20:03

What magic wand? All people with PR for a particular child have to agree before a name can be changed. It's that simple. If they don't agree, either it goes to court, or the name doesn't change.

hairymoragthebampot · 17/07/2018 20:05

I changed my DS name via deed poll and I had to show the court order and deed poll. We were pre 2003 and he didn’t have PR and didn’t get it either after going to court. I am sure it will work itself out and I can see a lawyer has already given advice.

ArnoldBee · 17/07/2018 20:08

I was paraphrasing from a thread on here with very similar circumstances where once the specialist team was involved it was all sorted. In my opinion it's worth going down this avenue before launching court proceedings etc. However this is up to the mother of the child.

outofmydepth45 · 17/07/2018 20:08

Does your sister have a partner ? PR can be transferred yes still court but all good is removed

MrsBertBibby · 17/07/2018 20:15

Does your sister have a partner ? PR can be transferred yes still court but all good is removed

This is a particularly florid piece of nonsense.

NotUmbongoUnchained · 17/07/2018 20:51

She doesn’t have a partner. I just feel so shit for her. She’s saved up for years for this holiday. She will likely have to just have his name on the passport and hope she’s doesn’t get into any bother at the borders. Buts it’s just the principal to her I think of the fact that he’s only met the kid a few times and she’s been there the whole time and the child knows his name as her name.

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hungryhippo90 · 17/07/2018 21:37

There will be no trouble. She just needs to travel with proof of parentage. Birth certificate is usually enough but I like to take more paperwork to show that DDs life is with me.

hairymoragthebampot · 18/07/2018 07:37

The other option is to simply use his original name which is on his birth certificate. She can then go on holiday! The passport is only for 5yrs and she can sort out the legal stuff alongside and once name change fullly legal she can send it back to be changed.

hairymoragthebampot · 18/07/2018 07:39

I should add that my eldest had a different surname to mine and it was never an issue when travelling. As others have said take extra documents if your worried.

Bbbbbbbb2017 · 18/07/2018 08:14

The thing about transferring pr is about as true as most of what comes out of May's mouth Hmm

FuckPants · 18/07/2018 08:17

Does your sister have a partner ? PR can be transferred yes still court but all good is removed

What absolute horseshit, think before posting such factually incorrect shite FFS.

Fumingbikes · 18/07/2018 08:20

When I spoke to the passport office they said they didn't need proof as long as we both agreed to the name change and didn't need proof that we actually agreed. Is that bollocks?

Queenofthestress · 18/07/2018 08:24

PR can not be transferred. For that to happen, PR would have to be stripped from her ex with his agreement, then awarded to the other person. To be awarded to the other person, as far as I know (don't quote me on this 😂) the birth person then has to surrender their rights, in order for the court to award rights to both people applying for PR. It's a long and costly process.

slovenlys · 18/07/2018 09:15

He will just have to travel with his dads surname on his passport. She will need to take his (full) birth certificate which will prove she is his parent and that's that.

MammyHester9116 · 18/07/2018 19:46

My surname was changed at 16 without my df knowing. I don't think it says anyway on the deed poll that he didn't know/wasn't involved. How did they know he wasn't involved in the name change?

dementedpixie · 18/07/2018 19:53

At 16 you can change your surname yourself anyway

haras321 · 14/08/2020 13:35

Hi, I have just been issued a court order allowing me to change my childrens names via deedpoll. Am i meant to get enrolled or non enrolled, which deedpoll site, some are free some are not. Please advise? Thanks

HaudYerWheeshtYaWeeBellend · 14/08/2020 14:43

Sadly the DV is irrelevant

If the father has PR he can legally refuse the name change and a court will decide if it’s refuted.

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