To think people who overtake are idiots?

[sallyhansen32]

So this morning I was out early.
I was on a road with a 30 mph limit..there's a speed camera next to a school.
I'm new to driving so didn't want to go crazy so I dropped down to 25mph till I passed through it.
A van overtook me and stuck his fingers up.
Was I going to slow?
If I was then fair enough ..but it's not like I was going through under 20.

Tootrue - are you not reading what I've said upteen times? Clearly not

I've read enough of what you've written to come to the conclusion that you just keep making excuses for yourself. So you were angry when you called the majority of drivers idiots. That makes it alright, does it?. He was no doubt angry when he flicked you the bird but he's still an idiot apparently.

TittyGolightly

Driving at 50mph on the motorway is odd, but how is it dangerous?

Lorries in lane 1 will be doing 59. If they come up behind a car doing 50 they’ll either have to brake, risking an accident behind them or pull into the middle lane into traffic doing around 70mph. Which slows everyone down for miles, risking more accidents.

Or the OP could find themselves sandwiched between 2 lorries and unable to get from 50 to 70 fast enough to get out.

dropping to 25, especially near a school and speed camera is perfectly acceptable/sensible.

In the early hours of a Sunday morning? No doubt the OP will welcome your support though and conveniently ignore the fact you clearly haven't read everything she's written.

30 is the limit, so dropping to 25, especially near a school and speed camera is perfectly acceptable/sensible. The other driver is an idiot.

Its legal, it's NOT perfectly acceptable or sensible. I repeat- I did exactly that on a driving test, the road had speedbumps and kids running about everywhere and I got told off on the debrief (and a minor).

Doing it on a quiet sunny Sunday morning is in no way sensible. (This isn't meant as a hounding to the OP who's just passed her test, it's replying to pp who makes out to be an experienced driver!!)

I also failed a test for going to slow and holding up traffic behind. Which at the time I thought was completely ridiculous. 11 years of driving experience later....I totally get it.

He was a dickhead - some people drive more slowly than others and as a driver you have to accept that and adjust your speed accordingly. You don’t have a responsibility ‘not to annoy’ other drivers; your job is to keep yourself safe.
However, nothing wrong with a safe, legal overtake. Better than being tailgated.

30 is the limit, so dropping to 25, especially near a school and speed camera is perfectly acceptable/sensible. The other driver is an idiot.

There is no reason to drop from 30 (actually 27-28 if your speedo is reading 30) because there is a speed camera. Don't go more than 30-32mph on your speedo, and you don't have to break when you see a speed camera!.

It was a Sunday morning, FFS. If you think you need to drop to 25mph around a school on a weekend, then you are the idiot.

TittyGolightly

Lorries in lane 1 should not be 'doing 59' if the car in front of them is doing 50. They should be overtaking. A lorry driver who doesn't want to overtake should be easing off the accelerator or braking, and that shouldn't risk any accidents at all, because the person driving behind them should be leaving an adequate stopping distance. The only dangerous thing in that situation is someone going too fast and/or not responding to what is happening in front of them.

So a lorry limited to 59 pulling out into the middle lane into traffic doing 70+ is no issue? Doesn’t cause ripples as people brake for miles behind them? Or pull over to lane 3 where traffic is likely going faster, causing them to brake as well?

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Op.....you can get post test driving experience which might benefit you. Yabu re dropping your speed because of a camera as breaking can cause accidents if you did it suddenly. Get your confidence up beforedriving on motorways. strongly advice re post driving test instruction

OP he was being an aggressive arse. 30mph is the maximum allowable speed for perfect road conditions, it is not an instruction to keep your car at 30. If a slight dip in speed caused that reaction then it's his anger that's at fault not your driving

Why do Speedos read higher than your actual speed?

OP - this is exactly why I am terrified of learning to drive. I would be far too cautious and slow because I'd be bricking it. I'm also likely to panic. Driving isn't for everyone, particularly not those of a nervous disposition.

Why do Speedos read higher than your actual speed?

Safety measure.

Worth noting that the speed limit is actually the maximum legal speed at which you should ever drive on a road, not the minimum or the recommended speed.
People die every day on roads because of idiots driving too quickly. Every single day. Somehow the "idiot" doing 50 in a 70 zone is more of a problem than the people doing 80 or 90.

Because it’s not speed that kills, it’s inappropriate speed. Which can be 50 in a 70.

Motorways are statistically the safest roads we have, and yet people commonly drive at 80-90mph on them (assuming not stopped by those driving at 56mph for “fuel economy”).

Justarandomblole - the ‘idiot’ driving at 80 on a motorway is doing a speed the government think tank deems safe.

Or bikes - Riding a bike at the same speed as the rest of motorway traffic is ill advised, You should speed up. Read more.

TittyGolightly

I didn't say it was 'no issue'. If it safe for them to overtake they should do so. If it isn't, they should wait. Either way, it would be their inappropriate driving that 'caused' any accident, not that if someone in front.

Titty
Statistics show that 67% of accidents on German roads occur on motorways without speed limits, resulting in twice as many speed-related deaths as the UK. Interestingly, Germany has the same number of speed-related accidents per 100,000 drivers as the UK. Speed is one of the main killers on the roads (alongside distraction), even when accident levels are the same.

Taken from
www.petrolprices.com/news/drive-faster-not-slower-motorways/

Titty

I didn't say anyone was an idiot. I used "idiot" as a quote from previous posters.

Motorways are safer than some roads because they mitigate the risk from overtaking caused by moving into oncoming traffic. The increased speed isn't what makes them safe. It virtually guarantees fatalities for minor mistakes that result in accidents.

Typhers

Why do consecutive governments ignore this wisdom then? Why not adjust the speed limit? Genuine question.

30 is a limit not a target

30 might be the limit, but unless there is something preventing you from driving at that speed (a hazard, a turn-off/roundabout or poor weather conditions) then suddenly dropping your speed for no reason is dangerous.

Driving below the speed limit doesn't automatically make you safer!

This;

30 is a limit not a target

suddenly dropping your speed for no reason is dangerous.

Suddenly dropping your speed 2-3 mph should cause no danger at all. Why would it?

Adaline

Suddenly dropping, ie jamming on the brakes, is clearly not the same as Fri ing at a lower speed.

Also, I think you will find there is a very high correlarion between the speed and the likelihood of serious injury or death whenever there is a crash.

No one set a out to crash but it happens. Doing an extra 5 mph on the day it happens makes it more dangerous.

Driving at a lower speed may not automatically make you safer, but crashing at a lower speed does.

Yours is a bad example.

People who overtake you in a 50 when you're already doing 50 and it's a bend are worse than idiots.