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To think this woman needs counselling, not jail

33 replies

SamanthaBrique · 14/07/2018 14:42

It's a horrific story, her father abused her for years before she snapped and killed him.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/jul/11/manchester-woman-barbara-coombes-admits-killing-her-father

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CammieKennaway · 14/07/2018 15:58

LaMainDeFatima - you know, I really don't know. I don't think it does to be honest.
I was also a victim of sexual abuse from an older male relative (not my dad!) and there is no way on earth I would let my kids near him and I don't go near him myself, so I don't understand why in this day and age she went back to live with him, when there are so many other alternatives available - she would have been given council housing upon her divorce on account of her daughter.
I also wouldn't murder my abuser although there were rumours around that K "wasn't normal" and many people did keep their kids away, which was even more awful for B's daughter who was practically excluded.
B was a nice enough woman on the exterior but she was also a loner and also came across as "not normal" and she didn't have any friends that I knew of - she always came across as quite vacant and surly - in a world of her own, which I do understand given the circumstances that she was abused.
The thing that that makes me lose sympathy and empathy with her is the manner in which she murdered her father - it wasn't just an instinctive whack and be done with it ...... plus the cold manner in which she buried him and there were kids that used to play in that garden after K disappeared and neighbours just assumed he'd died. The poor woman who lives there now is praying that her own kids don't find out the truth about what went on there.
I also can't find any sympathy for the fact she lied to her own family about K's death and wouldn't let them get involved with funeral arrangements and lied that he'd had a secret cremation or the fact that she continued to fraudulently claim benefits and she only confessed to all this when she failed to stop council officials from visiting her elderly father with regards to looking into adaptations to his council house for Winter.
The only one I really feel for is B's daughter who is a young woman now and who's had her entire world torn apart x

CammieKennaway · 14/07/2018 16:05

I should add that I do hope B receives extensive counselling but to be honest I think it's too late for her and I don't see her as a totally innocent victim.
I can't slate K as I have no idea as to whether he was a peadophile or not - there were rumours, but I saw no evidence of it, he never seemed to leer at kids etc and always seemed lovely (if a little odd in a quiet "leave me alone" way), although he was apparently very strict with B and her daughter and apparently abusive in a rage-type way (although again, I never saw evidence of this).
B, was always seemingly locked in her own world and had no interest in making friendships and was also odd and quiet and you got the feeling she'd rather you leave her alone.
Her daughter is the one who really needs and deserves the best counselling available - a lovely, quiet girl who won't say boo to a goose

CammieKennaway · 14/07/2018 16:12

Please don't anyone think I'm sticking up for K though - I'm not - what I'm trying to say is the police have obviously found some evidence with regards to something and he isn't here to answer and we must be careful.
There used to be a old man near where I grew up who was also a loner and everyone used to say he'd murdered his wife in the cellar of their house - I became friends with him years later when I was an adult and I was researching the house next door to him for a history project and I learnt that he'd never even been married and had actually been jilted by his fiancee before WW2 and he'd been so hurt that he never had a relationship again and chose to live with his rescue animals (another reason we became friends) and he shunned most people because he was aware of the rumours - sometimes we have to be so careful over what we say ....... and on that note, I'm now zipping my lip as I really don't know anything more about this case than general heresay x

DontDribbleOnTheCarpet · 14/07/2018 16:14

There's so much damage here, on so many levels, that I'm really glad it isn't my job to make the decision.

Gemini69 · 14/07/2018 16:34

as court records have shown... she continued to receive benefits for her dead Father.. long after killing him... to stop receiving the benefits she would have needed to provide a Death Certificate.. something she could not do... also allowing Family members to 'help arrange' a funeral..she also couldn't do because he was buried in the garden... I'm not sure what else she could do whilst continuing to hide her Crime.. Hmm

the Father was Filth... and should have been dealt with long ago...

the Daughter/Victim/Killer sounds like she lacked social skills.. however reading her 'life story' it's no wonder... I feel sorry for her

SunnySkiesSleepsintheMorning · 14/07/2018 16:38

I feel desperately sorry for her but she killed a person, even if he was her abuser. She’s only serve 4.5 years and it was accepted that she was affected by her trauma. I hope she gets the help she needs and deserves.

Karigan198 · 14/07/2018 16:39

You know prisons also do rehabilitation courses amdcoubselking right...

Karigan198 · 14/07/2018 16:39

And counselling even lol

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