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Sats results, is this normal or is school bu?

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dontlikebeards · 11/07/2018 12:56

KS2 sats results were released to schools yesterday, my dd school won't release them until next week as they like to check the results and marking. I think this is unfair to the children as they worked hard for these tests and deserve to know the results when they are released.

I didn't tell my dd when the results were due she found out from classmates so it has obviously been anticipated in the class.

For the record, I am not a great believer in sats and as long as I know my child tried her best the results aren't important to me, I just feel that the class put a lot of time and effort in to the tests and deserve their results when released.

Aibu or is school?

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user1955 · 11/07/2018 21:37

ARoomSomewhere I think you are muddled. There is no way your daughter could have brought them home on Monday as they didn't go live on the NCA tools website until exactly 7.30am Tuesday. I know because I was sitting, logged on, hitting refresh from 7.25am!

After that it took ages to actually download the document which had all the pupils raw scores and standardised scores on a single page. Our year 6 team, along with English and Maths leads, KS2 leader and head spent until start of school day doing a first look and identifying any surprises and borderline results.

To explain why thee children didn't their results that day. Here is the process we went through. After school we logged on again to check the scanned, marked papers against the mark scheme and decide whether we were going to challenge any. Two seemed a very harsh interpretation of the mark scheme, but we don't feel it's worthy of a challenge, unlike previous years. If we are querying marking we need to inform parents of that when we give out results.

After school today we have started transferring information from whole class sheet to individual sheets, checking the data and making sure the correct results sheet goes into the correctly named envelope.

Tomorrow the results can go out!

MidniteScribbler · 11/07/2018 23:38

I think YABU. We don't have SATS here, but another form of testing, and the results are given to the school. We then have to check them, make sure there are no results that seem too far out of left field, print them, put them in envelopes to send home. There's usually a few days turn around because we have to fit this in amongst actual teaching.

Itsveryhard · 11/07/2018 23:42

I've spent time checking marks that are incompetently added up and stupid questions that are marked incorrectly. Schools need time to go through and that's why they don't go out on the day they are released.

MsJolly · 11/07/2018 23:48

Our school rechecks every paper and every mark awarded/not awarded to make sure results are accurate before telling the students as they would appeal for any marks not given and the student needs to know.
3 yrs ago they found an extra 6 marks on DDs reading paper.
I'm sure that is a countrywide thing to do.

Armchairanarchist · 12/07/2018 23:39

I received my daughter's today. During her transition days for secondary school they were tested in maths and English to determine sets for September. They clearly don't reckon much to their SATS results.

user1955 · 13/07/2018 07:41

Primary teachers find that pretty insulting towards our professionalism Armchair but we know why they do it. SATs are externally marked tests not just plucking scores out of the air to make us look good, so not sure why they retest, except they come at the time of the year when children are hopefully performing at their peak. Tests during transition are bound to show a lower score with new school, new staff, excitement and nerves of moving, very end of year when they are really tired. Lower scores mean great value added!

NightmareLoon · 13/07/2018 08:02

User1995, schools can't use their own tests for value added, only the KS2 scores count.

Using internal tests for setting purposes is completely different!

MerryMarigold · 13/07/2018 08:04

User 1995, in terms of value added, won't secondary schools only be judged on their value added from SAT scores?

In my mind, the reason why secondary schools do this is because of the varying levels schools 'teach to SATs'. There may be a child in school A who is very talented but the school has a more rounded approach, so they don't spend 2 terms on past papers and then cheat in the tests. This child ends up with a lower score than another child who is less talented but who's school places an unhealthy emphasis on SATs.

Armchairanarchist · 13/07/2018 13:46

@user1995 I don't know about value added I just know they did this. DD is classed (according to her teacher) as high achieving going by her SATS so these tests on the taster days don't benefit her as far as I can see.

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