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Only wee's no poo's!

104 replies

ElectricDreamer · 08/07/2018 20:09

Went to a big birthday bbq at DSIS's yesterday for DBILs 40th birthday. I've been to DSIS's for a cuppa here and there, but she's not fond of entertaining and she's never thrown a party before. And definitely never has more than a couple of people at her home at any one time. She's a bit funny like that. So I was really surprised at her throwing a huge bbq for around 50 invitees. But we looked forward to it all the same. We live a bbq and the weather is fab.

On arrival I was taken to one side by DSIS and told that when using the loo we were only permitted to use her toilet for wee's only because, and I quote, "I'm not having anyone shitting in my house, so make sure you tell your DH as well!"

DH has only ever visited DSIS's home twice in the 10 years we've been together, because DSIS isn't the sociable type tgat invites people round (even DM and DGM have only been for an hour a small handful of times). DH has never even used her loo, so it's not like he has form for doing a number two and leaving the toilet in a mess. And neither have I. I've never been in her home long enough to need more than a wee. I was a bit taken abackand just laughed and walked off, thinking she couldn't have been serious. I privately laughed about it with DH and giggled about her social awkwardness. But I never thought she was being actually serious

On mixing with other guests it turns out all everyone had been greeted with the "don't shit in my house" line with a good few people being unable to tell if she was being serious or had a weird sense of humour. My DSIS isn't exactly what you'd call house-proud, and she can be a bit odd at times, so I went with 'weird sense of humour'. She does have form for cracking jokes others don't find funny.

But later in the afternoon my DH needed a, ahem ...number two. He was practically hopping from one foot to the other but too nervous to use DSIS's loo in case she was being serious. I told him to stop being silly and to just use the bloody loo. So in the end he did.

But as he exited the bathroom DSIS had been waiting outside to use the loo and entered after DH. Smelling that he had done a poo she went fucking batshit at him, making a big scene that she'd specifically said nobody was to shit in her house. She stormed out into the garden confronting me about my "dirty bastard husband".

I said I'd told him to go because she can't seriously expect people to spend all day at her house eating and drinking, but demand what bodily functions they're allowed to use or not use when they're there. She then started saying me and my dirty bastard husband had bad fucking manners. So it ended up in a row and DH and I left. DH was utterly humiliated and mortified.

For the record, my DH is clean. He doesn't leave toilets in a mess. But he has a functioning digestive system like the rest of us.

I've not spoken to DSIS since This, but have spoken to a couple of relatives who agree with her, and a couple who agree with me.

So AIBU to think it's ok as a guest to use the hosts loo for whatever you need it for (providing you leave it clean, obviously) if you're there for most of the day, without being publicly humiliated if you dare to do more than a wee?!

Or is it some unwritten rule that you must not succumb to bowel movements, no matter how desperate you are? Was my DH supposed to catch a cab (as he was drinking) to our home 30 mins away just to have a poo because it's such bad manners to use the hosts toilet for that purpose?

We don't attend many parties, admittedly, but I've never come across such a rule before.

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ElectricDreamer · 08/07/2018 21:23

"...with what is obviously huge mental health problem I think shes done aswesome"

I'll tell that to my DH who feels he can't show his face among my family again. Of course her awesomeness for throwimg a bbq when she cant handle it, and humiliatimg my DH in the process, trumps my DHs feelings

I've told her before, from my own therapy sessions (that she refuses to attend because she considers people who need professional help as "weak") tgat she needs to build up slowly to things tgat make her anxious. You know, exposure therapy. Small steps And all that. But she laughs and thinks I'm "a bloody hippie"

My DH has been embarrassed because she won't face up to her issues.

Well that's ok then. I'll just tell DH she was awesome.

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BetterEatCheese · 08/07/2018 21:25

She's on another planet! How dare she ask people to hold it!? And why on earth are some relatives agreeing with her? Madness

kateandme · 08/07/2018 21:26

no I didn't say it trumps that at all.
no it doesn't.
and especially with out of control mental health issue it does mean others can get in the cross fire becasuse these particular issues just railroad normal behaviour and life.
but its not ok for you husband to have had this happen.but if shes you sister im sure she would have hated it happening too surely.
its not right.and was awful.and if she says things like that about seeking help then that's not usueful for her either.

Sarahjconnor · 08/07/2018 21:27

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yikesanotherbooboo · 08/07/2018 21:33

I feel slightly sorry for DSis who is clearly struggling. Obvs she behaved dreadfully but I would hope that my DH was big enough to laugh off an accusation that was on one level preposterous 'dirty bastard' but on another just a statement of fact that he had been to open his bowels in an entirely normal way.

BasicUsername · 08/07/2018 21:33

You were right to "get bad tempered about it". Your poor DH, I'm sure he was mortified, but I think that the other guests will have left thinking very badly of her, not your DH.

Cheerbear23 · 08/07/2018 21:37

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HeGotManFlu · 08/07/2018 21:38

Drop,her a note to say you appreciate she has anxiety but you felt she was unkind and it was unnecessary to embarrass your dh like that, suggest she hire in a portaloo when she next has a party. Maybe its her food that bought on the need to use the toilet.

toohotandbothered · 08/07/2018 21:40

Did she snap and fart at him Hmm... ?

If genuine, this is totally bizarre ... I'm sure the 50 guests would see that your DH isn't to blame

ElectricDreamer · 08/07/2018 21:44

Sorry, struggling a bit with this one

You're not the only one.

I totally get that this sounds bonkers, but I'm really quite upset. My DSIS tends to suffer with inferiority anxiety, so it affects her in employment where she feels "thicker" (her words) than everyone else and feels she just can't do it.

She's not cleanliness OCD. Far from it. Then I could sort of empathise a bit. But she's done things of an unclean nature that's made me boak. So this all seems very hypocritical and confusing to me.

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longwayoff · 08/07/2018 21:49

Dear me. I wonder if her husband is the famous shitting man from an earlier thread? Grin

longwayoff · 08/07/2018 22:00

Oh sarahj there you are!. Could there be a connection? :-)

Snipples · 08/07/2018 22:04

Oh your poor husband. How mortifying! Your sister has clearly got some major issues and it was so rude of her to react the way she did. I'd give your family a wide berth from now on. I don't understand how any of them can agree with her and expect you to say nothing given how she reacted. Maybe they have form for just going along with her behavior rather than "provoking" her. I don't see how things could have gone any differently from your perspective. If I'd seen that I would have left the BBQ thinking very badly of your sister I'm afraid. And feeling bad for your DH but not thinking badly of him.

LemonysSnicket · 08/07/2018 22:06

She's an utter psycho. Toilets are for pee and poo. She should t have people round if she's so uptight.

Poloshot · 08/07/2018 22:08

This has got to be a wind up? Your sister is an off the scale lunatic

TattyTshirt · 08/07/2018 22:14

Your Dsis is batshit! Your poor DH Confused

Snowysky20009 · 08/07/2018 22:16

A toilet is for pooing and weeing. End of story. She's bat shit. I have vipoo and guests know they can use it if they want (some don't want to leave a smell), but I wouldn't even think about it if someone had a poo in my toilet.

I've had workmen use my loo who were working on my entire row of houses- I'd never begrudge anyone using my loo if they needed to go, it's a natural bodily function. I think it's cruel to leave someone uncomfortable and in pain.

(Disclaimer- worked in healthcare for years so bodily fluids, functions etc don't phase me at all).

SavageBeauty73 · 08/07/2018 22:18

Batshit crazy!!!!!

Cagliostro · 08/07/2018 22:19

Poor DH :(

Disabrie22 · 08/07/2018 22:28

Your sister isn’t batshit - it’s really not right to call her that on here - she’s mentally ill - but that does not change the fact that her behaviour drives you mad.
In this case - she needs to be told that she was in the wrong.
I have every sympathy for her - the BBQ was an achievement - but under no circumstances was that behaviour acceptable.

carebea · 08/07/2018 23:01

Nike; chill out on OP !
Her DSIS wants to be lucky that anyone even stayed there after her "no pooing in my toilet"!
In all fairness, what OP is describing I would want to sit nor eat in that house!...let alone take a shit in it!
After seeing the lime scale I would of 🤢...I would of embarrassed your DSIS at the state of her toilet (limescale) and then having the cheek to tell everyone not to have a shit!...maybe your DH done her toilet a fava and took a load of limes cake off with his Richard the 3rd!...
P.S you DSIS is a DICK!!!

southbucks77 · 08/07/2018 23:14

Snapped and farted 🤣

I just have the image of Borat appearing at the table with it in a poo bag. Maybe that’s what she would have preferred. An option for next time perhaps?

barkingfly · 08/07/2018 23:16

I think your husband deserves a prize for not going in the garden, to be honest.

ElectricDreamer · 08/07/2018 23:55

"I would of embarrassed your DSIS at the state of her toilet (limescale) and then having the cheek to tell everyone not to have a shit!"

I did. That's what the argument escalated into. Blush

I'm not proud, but I was angry and felt protective of my DH who had been nothing but polite, even keeping many of her guests entertained with conversation when she disappeared for 45mins to enjoy some narcotics in the back bedroom with her DP and a couple of his cronies

I've always appreciated that my own personal anxieties do tend to centre around tidiness and cleanliness but I understand 'normal' people have more relaxed lived-in homes than I do, so I've never said anything to my DSIS about what I consider questionable home cleanliness. It's her life, her home and she can live how she pleases, so I keep my opinions in my head.

But for her to be so controlling about what people may use her toilet for and humiliating a guest who dares to give in to a natural bodily function, when her entire home could benefit from some basic cleaning products, is just so out of order. To me, as someone with longterm anxiety, its not an excuse to treat people like that.

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DSHathawayGivesMeFannyGallops · 08/07/2018 23:57

I don't think what your sister did was fair. Anxiety or not, the public calling out was cruel and humiliating and she must have accepted that people may need to go desperately, it's not always scheduled or controllable. This is part of being a host. What if someone needed to be sick or had a mucky period? Would she call them out, too?

I also know where you're coming from re the state of her bathroom. I was fantastically ill in a shared bathroom as a houseguest after having a spiked drink and unknowingly left an embarassing mess in a place I didn't think to check when I came round (no memories). I completely understand why the person who found it was not happy (I was mortified) but it seemed hypocritical as the bathroom was filthy to start with and obviously never got cleaned- which I personally found disgusting during my stay!