To think that if this had been a mother of 3, not a father of 3, the response would be vastly different?

[GunpowderGelatine]

Father of 3 Jack P Shepherd (David Platt from Corrie) was pictured drunk in a lift after the England/Colombia game. The press/social media are pegging this, and his response, as 'hilarious' www.unilad.co.uk/sport/jack-shepherd-unconscious-lift-england-world-cup-win/

AIBU to think if a 30yo female soap actor mother of 3 (one of whom she doesn't see, like Shepherd) did this she'd be crucified and forced to apologise and make a statement about letting her kids down? And there'd no doubt be remarks about putting herself in danger of being sexually assaulted.

There not a lot of point to my post but so much I see now makes me think "if that were a woman it would be different" and I think we're a long way before men have to meet the high expectations that women do

I think this post says more about you than any thing else.

I dont remember that happening for Holly Willoughby going to work drunk...

YANBU

Sharon Osborne and a group of female hosts go on USA show the view and laugh and openly cheer at Catherine Kieu who mutilated her husband's genitals along with a female audience- imagine if a group of males did this over a female victim being mutilated??

This is one example of a doh me standard against men. I bet you'd struggle to find another, whereas double standards against women are so ingrained we don't even notice them anymore, they are normalised.

I think this post says more about you than any thing else.

Ok, what does it say about me?

I dont remember that happening for Holly Willoughby going to work drunk...

I do. And arriving at work from (allegedly) still celebrating your win for your work (so adding entertainment value really) is not quite the same as being passed out drunk in a lift going up and down.

*double, not doh me!

''This is one example of a doh me standard against men. I bet you'd struggle to find another, whereas double standards against women are so ingrained we don't even notice them anymore, they are normalised.''

Eh no, Kelly Brook goes on This Morning and laughs and jokes about beating up her past boyfriends and nobody says boo. When Lorena Bobbit mutilated her husband, she was made into a celebrity and I recall watching interviews where they would openly mock her mutilating her husband. Would love to see how that would go down the other way around... Plus I have already used the 'Take Me Out' example and look at this behaviour towards a male guest on Loose Women. Be outrage if a mae audience did this to a female. They are rubbing him and everything...

Take Me Out have done the one girl chosen by 15 (or however many guys) and a making it into a regular format.

Objectification of men isn't normalised and men, especially fathers, are not nearly held to the same high standard women are. So as much as you want to be a MRA Bill Burr type, facts just go against you I'm afraid

They are rubbing him and everything...

Terrible. I'm assuming if that upsets you, you're absolutely livid about the astronomically high rates of rape in this country, all carried out by men? And I also assume that you are horrified about a rapist being in the White House?