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AIBU children screaming teachers ignoring

55 replies

concernedneighbour47 · 06/07/2018 16:00

I changed my name incase anyone recognises me. I live next door to a school and I’m at home a lot during the daytime. I always hear the children playing outside and with the good weather I hear a lot more of what happens in the playground.

Basically there are a few kids with suspected issues possible autism/some issue affecting behaviour. There are a couple of children who scream and cry a lot. I understand children obviously get hurt etc but these children are screaming and crying with no obvious cause. AIBU to think that the teachers should be helping the children more effectively rather than telling them to shut up/stop screaming and occasionally mocking them with the other children :(

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montenuit · 06/07/2018 16:34

I would record it. Without visuals, just the audio, just what you can hear in your garden.

Go and play it to the headteacher.

concernedneighbour47 · 06/07/2018 16:38

No Patrick, I wasn’t sure how best to report them so came on here for advice but I want it to be anonymous because if the school find out then a lot more stones will be thrown over and I don’t want our property damaging again or move house

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AmazingGrace16 · 06/07/2018 16:40

You think staff are throwing stones at your house and will hold a grudge and throw more stones if you report?!

If so....you should report to the police for criminal damage they have already caused.

If it's kids throwing stones then you need to complain to the school.

neveradullmoment99 · 06/07/2018 16:41

I think there is a danger that you are making up stories because of what you hear. What you hear may not be accurate. Of course if what you describe is happening then it isn't right but you cannot possibly know what is happening just from hearing stuff and making up the rest. You need to be sure of your facts before accusing teaching staff/school of abuse.

AmazingGrace16 · 06/07/2018 16:41

You cannot report anonymously to Ofsted you have to go to the school first.

Nothisispatrick · 06/07/2018 16:43

That's still not that clear to me. 1. They won't know you've reported them, you will not be named on reports. Do the school even know your name? 2. If they did, they're not going to tell the children to throw more stones over that fence.

Nothisispatrick · 06/07/2018 16:44

What I am saying is you need to report it, and it sounds like some silly excuses not to. I work in a school and would be horrified if my colleagues did this and would report to the head. If the head didn't care all schools will have a whistleblowing policy.

AmazingGrace16 · 06/07/2018 16:46

Totally agree with Patrick. You need to approach the Head.

My advise would be though to leave out the speculation...the stuff about autism etc because that's just conjecture. Present facts. On x date y staff was overheard encouraging mocking.

concernedneighbour47 · 06/07/2018 16:46

I tried reporting the stones throwing a lot Grace but nothing happened I just had to wait for it to stop, I cant so much now so I’m gonna wait until Monday to report

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arethereanyleftatall · 06/07/2018 16:47

How do you know they have autism?

MissClareRemembers · 06/07/2018 16:48

Is it the same staff member/s doing the mocking every time? If it’s various people is seems very odd that such a culture has developed in the school. I’m surprised the children being mocked haven’t reported it themselves to parents.

concernedneighbour47 · 06/07/2018 16:48

Oh shit! She has just started going mad at me saying I’m a horrible friend who is just jealous of her and that she looks amazing in the dress. Guess I’ve been uninvited :'(

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concernedneighbour47 · 06/07/2018 16:49

Sorry ignore that I’m on two posts at the same time!

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Barbie222 · 06/07/2018 16:50

Don't record as you could get yourself into safeguarding trouble but please do go to the head first and then to the chair of govs if you aren't happy then.

gillybeanz · 06/07/2018 16:50

Would it be the teachers if they are in the playground?
Our kids teachers didn't do playground duties it was TA's and lunch time supervisors.

viques · 06/07/2018 16:51

For someone who hasn't done anything proactive to stop what you say is going on, the crying, the abuse , the stone throwing ...you seem to have invested a lot of time , no make that a huge amount of time , in watching and identifying individuals.

why haven't you contacted the headteacher, or the local PC?

And why name change? Hundreds of people live next door to schools.

I smell fish.

concernedneighbour47 · 06/07/2018 16:53

You can smell fish all you want I live near the coast so I often smell that! I know a friend who was outed on mumsnet and a few people know I use the site hence why I don’t want them reading this!

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Oakmaiden · 06/07/2018 16:55

Teachers don't do lunch duty. Break duty, yes, but not lunch.

So unless it is senior teaching staff there are unlikely to be teachers regularly in the playground.

Which makes me wonder what other parts of your curtain twitching information are also inaccurate.

PinguDance · 06/07/2018 16:59

How do you know they have suspected autism? How are you in a position to see their faces? By all means Contact the school about what you’ve heard but this sounds like a bit of a weird set up.

CheshireChat · 06/07/2018 16:59

I thought concerned was about to complain that living next to a school is noisy Wink

When you talk to the school, don't presume the kids have additional needs or that you know the reason they're crying, ultimately the issue is how the teachers are (not) handling it rather than anything else. TBF, even if the kids have no additional needs, it's an incredibly unkind way of stopping them being upset and I'd be furious if someone did that to my kid.

arethereanyleftatall makes a good point, why do you think they have autism?

PerfectSunflowers · 06/07/2018 17:03

Film them and pass it on to appropriate authority.
You won't get anywhere without evidence.

concernedneighbour47 · 06/07/2018 17:06

I’ve occasionally see teachers on the playground (their faces are on the school website so I know they are teachers) and my house has windows in the attic so I can see into the playground and see their faces

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SoozC · 06/07/2018 17:30

Teachers rarely do lunch duty.

How do you know it's the children with autism who are screaming? Unless you work at the school or are a good friend of the families it's very specific information to know.

If children are doing that screaming where they're supposedly in pain but there's nothing going on I will tell them to stop. It's not appropriate unless there's a real emergency going on and horrible to listen to.

I would be very careful about reporting unless you have all the facts. It's hard to say on a thread where we can't see/hear what's going on but there's often more to things than meet the eye so a meeting with the headteacher should be your first port of call.

Oakmaiden · 06/07/2018 17:30

Hang on - you go up into the ATTIC so that you can see the faces of the adults in the playground? And you lurk on the school website often enough that you recognise the teachers from their photos? Despite your only contact with the school being you regularly phone them to complain?

I think you are bored and like to make trouble. Sorry.

PitterPatterOfBigFeet · 06/07/2018 17:36

AIBU to think that the teachers should be helping the children more effectively rather than telling them to shut up/stop screaming and occasionally mocking them with the other children

Whether or not they have autism joining in with children mocking a crying child is pretty shocking. No teacher I ever met would behave this way. You need to report it.

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