To think it's not negoSSSiate

[Alpanini]

Have you ever met anyone who says negosssiate instead of negoshiate in real life? If so, do they also say situasssion instead of sitchuation? And mensssion for mentchion? It's weird, right? Bothers me every time I watch the news. And don't get me started on Breggsit.

It's like people going to work on the 'chube' when they mean tube. For some reason that really annoys me.

Well, what does Rees-Mogg say? He seems to have an overtly correct way of pronouncing things (that makes them sound entirely fresh and new…)

One of my pronunciation peeves is schtudents.

Teresa May says it like that, makes me cringe!

Kat was just coming on to say a teacher pronounces it 'sdudents' - sd instead of st. What is sd?, its not even in the English language and you're a teacher!!!

Ti" should produce a "sh" sound in the English language. Yeah ... but that "uses up" the "i" ... station = stay-shun, not stay-shi-un. So negotiate=nego-ti-ate= nego-sh-ate, ie negoshate not negoshiate. So that logic doesn't quite work.

On the other hand, no way can you get a t to sound like an s. so I don't see that nego-siate works either.

On-line dictionary gives the phonetics as
nɪˈɡəʊʃɪeɪt
and that tall curvy thing in the middle is an "sh" sound.

Katisha

One of my pronunciation peeves is schtudents.

Ouch. I've never heard that. Are you sure you weren't listening to Sean Connery? 😁

My dad says arple not apple, and how do you say tube without a ch sound, saying tube sounds like Stewie Griffin

My English teacher used to say sex-sual for sexual, I've never heard anyone else say it like this!

Negotiate I’ve heard with “ss” not “sh” but never some of the others you’re listing.

My pet hate is people who say “axe” instead of ask “I axed him”.

Breggsit winds me up too!

Does anyone remember Supernanny and how she pronounced unacceptable as unasseptable?

I think it’s regional. I find ‘posher’ people say nego-see-ate and tissssue.

I have a first in English literature and I am an English tutor. I pronounce both with a shhh.

I do remember that mission, it used to drive me berserk .

was just coming on to say a teacher pronounces it 'sdudents' I think I may do that! d and t are the same, except that d has the tongue on the roof of the mouth and t has it just behind the teeth, which puts the tongue in a flatter position. But when you combine them with the u sound , "due", "tue", it seems the difference is in the alignment of the tongue - if you say "t' on its own, then try to say "tue" with the tip of the tongue in the same position, it distorts the "ue" sound. So maybe that's why it's easy to slip into "sdudent"?

I find ‘posher’ people say nego-see-ate and tissssue.

I agree, and I assumed it was my common origins that left me using "sh" instead. Now that I've watched the video up-thread, I've realised it's the posh people who are wrong.

But i say exit like eggsit, so breggsit sounds right to me!

I don't day negossiate though.

Isn't English a strange and varied language

While we're her, it pressedent or preesedent?

Here is Australia they say dahta for data and it makes my skin crawl..

Wheezing - me too! “I axed them to come over”

So annoying.

To those that say eggsit for exit do you also say eggseptional for exceptional and eggxited for exited?

My father in law says thee-et-er (with a hard th) for theatre. Drives me crackers.

@Alpanini that video is fab. I love reading about how words evolve.

Who'd like to tell me how the word latte should be pronounced? I've had some fierce debates about it and always disagree that's it's pronounced lar-tay, the wannabe posh people round here pronounce it like that and it drives me batshit. Happy to be put in my place if I'm wrong though

Haitch.

its like nails down a blackboard....
And yes the negotiate is a 'sh' and not a 'sss' but it doens't irk me half as much as 'haitch' ....

Yes, shtudents and various other words beginning with S. Shtring, shtruggle and so on.

If it bothers you that other people use language in a way you don't condone, then you will spend your life being bothered.

Let's not start in schedule

@mission no but those have an extra c in there so i think i say eggsited.. 🤣 i also say auggsiliary if that helps..