Neighbors smoking

[ScottishMummy12]

Not sure if I am been unreasonable or not. We stay in a cottage flat and the people upstairs smoke. They don’t smoke in there house but smoke outside there front door which is right next to my daughters bedroom. Even when the window is closed the smell still comes in. So last night they were both smoking and I asked if they minded moving to be met with loads of abuse. They said they had a right to smoke where they wanted. I am unsure if they are allowed to smoke there as it’s a shared path and we both own our properties so don’t who I could contact to find out. So was I unreasonable to ask them to move?

Are the properties free hold Or lease hold ?
Leasehold you could find the landlords by doing a check to see who owns it
Tbh they are rather rude and should be more mindful

I don't think legally you can stop them, but as a a smoker myself if my neighbour told me that when I smoked in my usual spot, smoke entered their house so could I please smoke elsewhere I would do so.

It’s a free hold Lalameme. It’s just really annoying as my daughter can’t use her room because it triggers her asthma. It has only started being a problem since they had a baby at the beginning on June and don’t want their baby being around smoke. Think will just need to swap rooms with dd.

Sadly I think that "legally" they are right. Morally, that's debatable!

Perhaps write them a letter saying you're sorry if you upset them and calmly explaining about the issue and your daughters asthma? Appeal to their better nature and maybe they'll move?

Can you light up a cigarette and stand outside their daughter's bedroom? Unfortunately, in my experience of annoying neighbours I've only been able to resolve the issue by being a nuisance to them.

Would love to do that but unfortunately don’t smoke. I don’t think they understand how strong the smell is and the effect it’s having. Will maybe try and apologise when I next see them and just explain although they do know about my dds asthma.

Unfortunately, I think if you were met with a load of abuse from them last time, they probably won't be any more helpful if you try again. YWNBU to ask them to move though, I think most people would have been happy to move. We had neighbours many years ago that smoked on their drive and the smell was really strong in our living room.

I think its probably a good idea to swap bedrooms with your daughter as the main thing is that her asthma isn't made worse. Hope she's ok.

Smoking is disgusting, bad for your health and quite expensive. I have no idea why anyone would do it.

Legally I don't think there's much you could do but morally if you had asked them nicely enough they should move.
Try and talk to them again (maybe when they aren't smoking if possible) apologise if you came across in the wrong way but you were just concerned for your DD's health because she as asthma and the smell seeps in and lingers. There must be somewhere else they can stand!
Also, who is looking after their tiny baby when they are both smoking outside??

Next time they do it open your daughters window and water some window boxes do this each time they smoke they'll soon find somewhere else as your shaky hands and a watering can or hose means their cancer sticks getting wet.

I have a lot of sympathy, OP, that's awful. Unfortunately they are right. But so are you if you want to play nursery rhymes loudly (provided it isn't that late) and on repeat in your DD's room.

Don’t think there’s much you can do OP. If it’s affecting your daughters asthma I guess all you can do is swap bedrooms with her if that’s an option? I agree it will mean it won’t be pleasant for you but if that’s your main concern?

Have a word and tell them to stick some weed in it. It'll be ok then according to mumsnet masses

Oh so sorry to hear this, I have smoke coming in from my neighbours and hate it. Ciggies and dope, eeeyk.

I have an air filter thingy, I got from John Lewis, it was quite cheap, not really sure if it helps, but it makes me feel better.

Take to chucking your dirty mop bucket water out of the window of your DDs room every time they’re out there.

It does sound like if the responded so unreasonably you need to fight fire with fire...

What about a few tomato plants in big pots. They really thrive if treated to cow dung as fertiliser.

Maybe they felt a bit under attack as you asked them while they were doing it - could you talk to them another time and explain the full situation?
Not sure why smokers haven't all converted to vapes yet.

Thanks everyone. We have decided to just swap rooms because apart from the smoking they aren’t bad neighbours and we don’t want to cause a fight with them.

Wait and see if they just stop! They may think about it and move.

YANBU! Currently lying in bed enjoying the wafts of smoke coming from the idiots next door.

Despise smoking with a passion, it’s just vile and smokers are just so god damn selfish!

@babynut1

I disagree with that. A lot of smokers are selfish, but a lot of non smokers are too... similarly a lot of both smokers and non smokers are considerate.

You just come across as narrow minded with a statement like that.

You're. being very nice saying that apart from this they're not bad neighbours. No decent neighbours would have been so rude and uncooperative. Could you shake a bit of disinfectant/jeyes fluid around the area they smoke in and go 'oh sorry, lots of ants crawling around. Need to get rid'.