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To not put a double space before a sentence?

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beeefcake · 02/07/2018 12:39

Having a debate with a colleague who insists the correct way to type is with a double space before the start of each sentence within a paragraph.

To me this looks strange and is unnecessary with modern word formatting which naturally creates a slightly bigger space after a full stop.

AIBU???????

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BeijingBarbie · 02/07/2018 13:59

Two spaces used to be necessary when typewriters were used but modern programmes automatically make the space slightly bigger so no longer needed. I used to argue relentlessly about this with an old colleague- she even used to put her email subject in capitals so people who know it was important Hmm

FlybirdFly · 02/07/2018 14:01

I didn’t know that. That is amazing. Fullstop if you hit space twice.

hellosummer12 · 02/07/2018 14:03

Double spaces are old-fashoned - a relic of typing on manual typewriters. One space is correct. [I'm an editor.]

DiegoMadonna · 02/07/2018 14:04

So why do all my apple products put the full stop in if I double space then. I never press the full stop button at all just twice on the space bar.

Just proved it twice. Make that 3 times. I did however miss a question mark in my attempt to make sure I wasn't going mad. (5 times)

To make typing quicker and easier. When you double space, it removes the second space! Check back in your posts—no double spaces!

LyndseyKola · 02/07/2018 14:05

It’s just an old fashioned way of typing. I think it was something to do with typewriters and stopping them from jamming or something. We no longer use typewriters so a single space is correct.

liminality · 02/07/2018 14:08

It was considered and archaic, however, recent studies have revealed that people read more fluidly with two spaces, so it may yet come back into fashion. Nothing in grammar is ever set in stone, you know!
On the web I use one, but when I publish my book I am going to use doubles.

liminality · 02/07/2018 14:08

*considered old-fashioned and archaic

FrancisCrawford · 02/07/2018 14:08

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Dahlietta · 02/07/2018 14:09

I remember my uni lecturers telling us if anyone had been taught this by parents it was not acceptable when submitting essays. No one in the room knew what he was talking about, we all had to Google. I'm 37.

I'm 37 and I was taught this at school. I never submitted a university essay that wasn't handwritten though Grin

Mummyoflittledragon · 02/07/2018 14:12

Mid 40’s dinosaur. I learnt to double space. Apple products put a full stop in with a double space. Admittedly I’d then have to put a third space in between the fullstop and next sentence to leave two spaces. I double space on letters or anything more formal. Double space on here to punctuate only.

WhatATimeToBeAlive · 02/07/2018 14:15

I was taught the same way as your colleague when I was at secretarial school so I think it's correct. I still type this way. See? I think one space looks odd to be honest but then that's the way I was taught several years ago.

TeatimeForTheSoul · 02/07/2018 14:15

@TrueBlueYorkshire can you share what the plug-in is called? Sounds great! Though I understand single spacing is the way to go now I prefer bigger spacing as I’m a bit dyslexic. Would love to try this plug in.

Thanks to those who said about proportional vs fixed space fonts. Never knew that, really interesting! (oops, does that make me boring 😁)

SpandexTutu · 02/07/2018 14:21

I always do a double space.... AND I'M PROUD OF IT!!

SilverPheasants · 02/07/2018 14:28

Does anyone else still put a space before/after an ellipsis? Not doing so looks very wrong ...

sirfredfredgeorge · 02/07/2018 14:38

Sentence spacing long predates typewriters, a quick look shows, this from 1729 has sentence spacing, so it's nothing to do with proportional fonts or typewriter jamming, it's just a change in fashion.

Possibly related to printers wanting more text on a page, maybe a paper shortage during WW2 caused the change, who knows, but nowadays it's certainly much more common to see single spaces.

safariboot · 02/07/2018 14:56

I think it's obsolete now.

On the internet it's usually invisible because HTML collapses any number of spaces into one. As you can see by comparing the screenshot with how this post is displayed.

In MS Word, if I need to edit a document someone else wrote, there's a good chance I'll search and replace all double spaces with single ones and repeat the process to collapse all multiple spaces, because there's a good chance the previous author either accidentally put two spaces between some words or used spaces for layout and alignment because they don't know any better way.

safariboot · 02/07/2018 14:58

Ahem, I forgot a screenshot. Well here's one.

To not put a double space before a sentence?
FeistyOldBat · 02/07/2018 15:05

For the whole history of handwritten and printed documents in the European Latin languages, with different glyphs having different horizontal widths, one ordinary character space after a full stop has been standard practice. It only changed when that so-limited bastard interloper, the typewriter, came on the scene briefly, with its awful single-width character alphabets, that something had to be done to mark the space between sentences in a different way, otherwise the text became too difficult to read. This was the only reason for two spaces after a period. It's never been the practice in documents produced by scribes or printers, which has a far longer history than the typewriter.

Now that the typewriter has largely been banished to the dustbin of history, there's no justification for putting two spaces after a period, it's a mistake, or an eccentricity, whatever you want to call it. As an earlier poster pointed out, the single space after a period is slightly wider than a normal word space. This follows the scribal tradition.

After I retired from the railway I ran my own business as a typesetter/typographer (going back to my first love!), and have academic qualifications in the field; I love everything about printing, typesetting, its history and conventions. To be asked to put someone's own ideas, research, knowledge, poetry, whatever it is, into print to present them to her audience, to make her text pleasurable to read and easy to find information in it, is the greatest privilege.

For insights into typography and the development of the scribal and printing conventions, Robert Bringhurst's The Elements of Typographic Style is a good read. He's a poet and author as well as a printer, and writes about his subject with a love I really appreciate.

Annonymiss123 · 02/07/2018 15:05

it used to be two spaces, but now one space is correct

Nobody told me the rules had changed! Shock

BerylStreep · 02/07/2018 15:09

This is really interesting. I always use a double space after a full stop. I really don't think I could stop now. Then again I'm also a fan of the Oxford comma.

I have a feeling our English classes at school were either quite thin on grammar, or I really wasn't paying much attention. My DC's literacy homework is often a revelation to me.

Rather worrying since I write a lot of policy and reports for work.

DownHereInTheHorridHouse · 02/07/2018 15:09

I've just had book proofs through and they're single-spaced after full stops. I hate it. Absolutely hate it. Combined with the font they've chosen, it just all looks squashed up and unpleasant. They're clueless about Oxford commas too.

I've got my next two books with them Sad . . .

MikeUniformMike · 02/07/2018 15:11

So do spelling mistakes @DuchyDuke.

Single space is the modern way of doing it. It means that you can search your work for unintended double spaces.

Redgreencoverplant · 02/07/2018 15:15

This is old fashioned?! But I am only 29!!!! I did learn with dear Mavis Beacon though.

Redgreencoverplant · 02/07/2018 15:15

Do people really notice though? I don't think I have ever noticed how many spaces people put between sentences.

tectonicplates · 02/07/2018 15:28

In my experience it's quite a good indicator of someone who went to private school.

WTF?! I learned to type after I left school anyway. We didn't learn at school.

I was taught that double spacing was correct. I also read an employment-related article about five years ago where someone was saying they actively used it as age discrimination, i.e. if your covering email contained double spacing, you were too old to work there. I can't believe how pedantic some people are.

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