Ex partner & un-taxed car

[Anon24]

My ex partner picked up our son 2 weeks ago in a new to him car. I checked all details (tax mot and insurance) online which come back ok apart from tax..
I asked him if it was taxed and his reply was "yes I have just done it" so I let it go with it saying online it could take 5 working days to show up.
Today he come to pick up our son in said car, which again I checked online and it says in-taxed.. I refused to let our son in the car so he arranged for someone else to collect him..
He called me pathetic as "it's only a fine if caught and doesn't affect insurance"
So....do you think I was being unreasonable not letting our son into the car?....

It does affect the insurance, same as no MOT affects the insurance

Although - hypothetically, I'm not sure how a taxed/untaxed car prevents accidents? I suppose, theoretically, you'd be more likely to have an accident in an untaxed car as you'd be an all round bone head and chancer.

Not being taxed doesn't make the car more or less safe, however if there were to be a really serious accident, your DS wouldn't be covered by DH's insurance.
He'd be treated on the NHS though, and wouldn't suffer from loss of income.

Can anyone link to a source saying no tax will invalidate your insurance???

Because i claim its bollocks. Insurance company doesnt even ask about tax

I'd say YABU . VED doesn't affect how safe the car is. Neither does an MOT really as it states on the certificate the MOT isn't a sign of the cars mechanical condition

DS is the third party so would be insured.

Checking tax seems a bit invasive though if he isn't taxed the fine is automatically sent, why are you doing it?

YABU. By all means nag him about the fact he's effectively cheating other taxpayers, but it has absolutely zilch to do with whether your son can safely be int he car.

Taxing the car isn't a safety issue. He'll end up with a fine which is his concern. You checking to see if car is taxed is really controlling

Checking to see if the car is taxed? Why would you do this? Will not affect the validity of insurance.

It’s none of your business whether or not the car is taxed. Tax doesn’t make it any safer. You checking it’s extremely controlling.

It’s not your car, not your problem, so why do you care?

Tax doesn’t affect safety, nor does the MOT.

Having no tax does not affect insurance at all. Having no MOT doesn’t generally either but it could affect the amount paid out in a claim settlement.

While it's a bit of a twatty thing to do, this is a job issue imo. None of your business and you're weirdly overinvested to be checking in the first place. Do you generally find yourself looking for excuses to disrupt your child's time with his father?

It takes up to 14 days to update the system.

The MOT does affect safety, seatbelts and the braking system are part of the MOT.

www.nopenaltypoints.co.uk/legal-implications-avoiding-car-tax-insurance.html

The MOT does affect safety, seatbelts and the braking system are part of the MOT.

But it’s 1 inspection. Something could break the next day and you probably wouldn’t know or do anything about it until the next MOT.

My ex drives my son literally across the country, sometimes in his car, sometimes in his sister's, his mum's, his girlfriend's and once in a hire car.

It has never crossed my mind to look any of these vehicles up online. Why would you do that? Surely your ex wouldn't put his own child into an unsafe vehicle, having tax or not makes no difference.

YABU and a bit odd. The car not being taxed has absolutely no effect whatsoever on your son's safety, and it's a bit weird that you're checking up on your ex like that.

I’m puzzled why you’d even look online to check his vehicle details!