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Drinking concern. Advice required

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Rugbytown1 · 29/06/2018 22:34

I have major concerns about my husbands deinking . He is drinking half litre of Gordon’s Gin 5 nights a week ( the other two night he is at work ) he says it is the only way he can relax . He works really hard and thinks he deserves a drink every night. He starts about 6pm each night and is in bed by 9pm at the latest . He gets quite nasty with it too but when I have confronted him regarding the amount he drinks he just thinks I am moaning . I worry so much about his health and what it is doing to him . He honestly does not think he has a problem . I have no idea how many units are in half litre of Gordon’s Gin but surely it is a lot . I want to talk to some - one to try and help the situation but I have no idea who to go to . Any suggestions please

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longwayoff · 29/06/2018 22:50

Bloody hell. Thats a lots of booze. Contact Al Anon for your own sake they will help you.

IWantMyHatBack · 29/06/2018 22:52

Does he drive to work in the morning after ~15 units of alcohol?

IWantMyHatBack · 29/06/2018 22:53

Oops, I underestimated. 1 unit per 25ml. Ish. Around 20 units then. Jesus...

Rugbytown1 · 29/06/2018 23:18

Yes he does drive in the morning , but because he is in bed about 9pm ish he thinks he is ok . I have no idea how long this amount of alcohol would take to come out of the system to be honest

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Wolfiefan · 29/06/2018 23:21

Approx a unit an hour. He shouldn't be driving.
He has an alcohol problem
You didn't cause it.
You can't control it.
You can't cure it.
If he doesn't want to change he won't. You can't control that. You can only control your response. Nastiness and boozing? Why stay?

LizB62A · 29/06/2018 23:26

I thought alcohol degrades at 1 unit per hour.
I've googled and the NHS website backs this up:
www.nhs.uk/chq/Pages/853.aspx?CategoryID=87

So 20 hours to get rid of c. 20 units.
Starting at 6pm in the evening, he'll have the 20 units out of his system around 2pm the next day.

Next time he drives the morning after drinking, report him anonymously - if he gets stopped and breathalysed, it might make him think twice next time?

IWantMyHatBack · 29/06/2018 23:30

Tbh, if he was drinking half that he'd be at risk of being over the limit the next morning.

Half a litre of gin will absolutely put him over the legal limit, by a substantial amount.

I'd call the police on the fucker.. But my aunt was killed by a drunk driver taking a corner too fast one morning.

IWantMyHatBack · 29/06/2018 23:31

It's essentially the same as downing 2 bottles of wine before bed. It's a vast quantity of alcohol.

I mean, I can drink a lot.. He's drinking A LOT.

Rugbytown1 · 29/06/2018 23:33

Fair comment . I have got to the stage now where I am on the verge of leaving . Mad thing is I still love him , was clutching at straws to see if I could try and make him realise what he is doing to himself and our marriage . Think I am living in cuckoo land though 😟😟

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IWantMyHatBack · 29/06/2018 23:36

One day he'll take a corner too fast, or misjudge a junction, or some other stupid mistake, and he'll hurt or kill someone.

Crimestoppers online
crimestoppers-uk.org/give-information/forms/pre-form

Report his daily route to work, time he leaves, etc. If he gets caught then he's only got himself to blame.

Wolfiefan · 29/06/2018 23:41

Only he can change.
You can't change his drinking.
You can only change your response to it.

Allabitmuchisntit · 29/06/2018 23:42

How long has he been drinking that much gin op? My guess is he knows he’s drinking too much and is in denial.

HyacinthsBucket70 · 29/06/2018 23:42

He's drinking and he's nasty with it. That sounds awful, OP.

I think you need to report him before he kills someone.

I saw what my friend went through married to an alcoholic. It took her around 10 years to realise she couldn't make him stop. It was heartbreaking to be honest, and her kids don't thank her for it.

Rozbos · 30/06/2018 00:38

1/2 litre of gin per night or 1/2 litre of gin in total across the 5 nights?

Rugbytown1 · 30/06/2018 14:53

A night

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IWantMyHatBack · 30/06/2018 15:02

Every night? That's absolutely insane.

Something like 140 units of alcohol a week. That's 10 x the maximum weekly guideline amount.

Runssometimes · 30/06/2018 15:09

Contact Al Anon. And report the drink driving. If you have kids, seriously consider leaving.

GirlsBlouse17 · 30/06/2018 15:33

Don't know if this is any help:

Being in a relationship with an alcoholic is not easy. Addicts are focused almost entirely on themselves to the detriment of their relationships. If your partner is an alcoholic, communicating with him or her is probably one of your biggest relationship challenges.

You might find that when you try to talk to them the conversation devolves into a shouting match, resulting in hurt feelings. There are ways that you can approach the addict, with judgment suspended, to share your feelings and express your concerns.

Consider these tips on how to talk to your alcoholic partner:

Talk to your partner when he/she is sober. Timing is crucial when engaging an alcoholic. You know the effect alcohol has and trying to have a real and honest conversation while your partner has been drinking will not work. A good time to start a discussion is right after he/she has woken up. Your partner might be hungover, but at least you know he/she will be sober first thing in the morning.
Remain calm. Speaking with an alcoholic can quickly become heightened with emotion. Resist the urge to shout or yell, or even to cry. Keep your cool and don’t let your partner push your buttons. If he/she tries to begin an argument, tell him/her that you refuse to engage. State your intention to have a calm and rational talk and if he/she will not follow suit, walk away. If you are afraid of losing your cool, practice ahead of time. Recruit a friend or family member to role-play the discussion so that you will be prepared to stay calm.
Be patient. Staying calm yourself is one thing; it is something that you can control. What you cannot control is your partner’s reaction. Realize that it may take several attempts to get a calm conversation going. If he/she explodes, walk away and try again another time.
Find your empathy. Your partner has undoubtedly hurt you. He/she has, at the very least, made your life more difficult. It may be hard to feel any kind of empathy, but it is important to try. He/she did not intend to become an addict and has a disease. He/she is suffering too. Talking to your partner with a sense of empathy will be more successful than speaking from a place of hurt, judgment or anger. Remember that he/she is ashamed, scared and sick, and keep in mind that alcoholism is the real enemy.
Be honest. If you hope to help your partner and save your relationship, there is no room for anything less than the honest truth. It is especially important to be honest about your feelings, how his/her drinking affects you, and how far gone you feel your relationship is. If you feel on the verge of walking out on him/her, say so. The truth can be softened with your tone, your offers of help and your support, but not with lies or with holding back. That will not help.
Have a true conversation. Ask your partner about his/her feelings and where he/she sees your relationship headed. Be an active listener and participate in his/her responses so that he/she knows you are hearing him/her.
Hold off on creating a plan of action. Starting a conversation with your partner may appear an intervention, which often feels like an attack. Creating a plan for getting him/her help should be the ultimate goal, but put it off until you have broken down the barriers and have had a few successful conversations. Once you have both opened up about your feelings and his/her drinking, you can begin an honest discussion about what to do next. Jumping straight to the idea of rehab may just cause him/her to clam up or to explode.
Living with an alcoholic is a difficult situation. You cannot live this way forever, and a simple conversation can be the start of a new life. Remember to be calm, honest and open, and you can help lead your partner to sobriety.

GirlsBlouse17 · 30/06/2018 15:37

Also, this may be helpful:

Drinkline is the national alcohol helpline. If you're worried about your own or someone else's drinking, you can call this free helpline in complete confidence. Call 0300 123 1110 (weekdays 9am to 8pm, weekends 11am to 4pm).

Nat6999 · 30/06/2018 15:40

My DP when I first met him drank probably 4 pints in the evening, didn't drink every day, this graduated over the space of a year to drinking every day & then to drinking every waking hour. In the space of 4 years he went from being perfectly healthy to having a fatty Liver & a year later being diagnosed with Cirrhosis of the liver, he passed away just over 4 months from the Cirrhosis being diagnosed from his organs failing & his lungs bleeding at the age of 34.

You need to get your DH to see his GP, try to get him to have a general health check, they usually do a liver blood test, this may just give him a wake up call to get help before it's too late, the mood swings can be an indication that his liver is suffering as the toxins build up due to the liver not working as well as it should.

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