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Not bothering to try to pronounce surnames-AIBU?

20 replies

KindergartenKop · 26/06/2018 16:45

I was recently in a work situation where a colleague had to read out 200 surnames. Every time he got to an ethnic minority name he used the first name or just an initial, I assume because he couldn't be bothered to try to pronounce it eg.
James
Johnson
Jones
Jones
Ali J.
Jumble

About 5% of the 200 were ethnic minority names and he managed to try all the other names.

It made me feel uncomfortable, they were being 'othered'. The 200 people were present and a few looked upset. Aibu? Should I mention this to anyone?

OP posts:
UpstartCrow · 26/06/2018 16:47

Yes, that was singling people out. If he knew he had to read out a list of words and would be unfamiliar with them, he should have done his homework or declined.

KindergartenKop · 26/06/2018 16:49

He's worked with them for two years.

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Notlivestock · 26/06/2018 16:59

That's really poor - he should absolutely have made more of an effort! At graduations etc they give the person reading the names a phonetic list of names so that everyone is treated the same. It's very disrespectful to do otherwise.

UpstartCrow · 26/06/2018 16:59

That makes it even worse.

Grilledaubergines · 26/06/2018 17:00

Yeah that’s not very professional at all.

BlueBug45 · 26/06/2018 17:01

Should I mention this to anyone?

Yes if you don't someone else will who is an ethnic minority and he will get in worse trouble.

HulaMelody · 26/06/2018 17:05

The surname I use for work is very unusual and is constantly mispronounced. Sometimes I’ll give people some slack but if someone has been working with me for a while I’d expect them to have it spot on. It’s laziness and kind of racist to just skip over it or willingly mispronounce.

OftenHangry · 26/06/2018 17:06

I have foreign names and understand it is difficult for people to pronounce them if they encounter it the first few times, but they usually look at me wideeyed and ask if it was ok to use my first name. He is just rude especially after all this time

LimeCheesecaker · 26/06/2018 17:08

That’s incredibly offensive. Definitely mention.

Bagadverts · 26/06/2018 17:14

Please mention it. I am in a minority but might not feel confident to say something. I wonder what he'd do with my name - neither first or second name are originally British/western but possibly first name harder to pronounce than my surname.

lhastingsmua · 26/06/2018 17:20

It’s quite nasty. It will definitely make those he singled out feel awful, like they’re different from people with English surnames in a negative way. Very disrespectful - almost like their names aren’t important enough to pronounce

ikeepaforkinmypurse · 26/06/2018 17:31

Very strange not to even try to say the name. He might mean well, but it comes across horribly!

RaininSummer · 26/06/2018 17:34

Very rude and thoughtless. In the wrong job?

MrsPear · 26/06/2018 17:35

Very poor that who couldn’t be bothered to confirm how to say someone’s name and then to single out horrid. Our’s is non English and I’ve had to confirm with everyone including schools. I don’t why but I’m always impressed at achievers asssembly when the year 6’s pronounce my child’s name right.

wendiwoowho · 26/06/2018 17:39

I assume because he couldn't be bothered to try to pronounce it

You know him, so if this is why you think he did it then I would say something.

But without knowing why it is difficult. Perhaps he felt it would be less disrespectful to pronounce their names incorrectly.

kaytee87 · 26/06/2018 17:45

I get this all the time. Yanbu it's really fucking annoying, especially when people take the piss by saying things like 'blah blah' or laughing about your name and expect you to join in. I just give them a cold stare now.
I understand some names are difficult, a simple 'I'm sorry, could you tell me how to pronounce your name' is all it takes.
Racist pricks.

Justanotheruser01 · 26/06/2018 17:53

I used to have this a lot with customers and a lot of appreciation was given for attempting to say their name, even if it was to laugh at us! Tbf though there as with smith Jones etc is a lot of common surnames so shouldn't be too much effort

JessambardKingdomBrunel · 26/06/2018 17:56

This reminds me of my school days.

I was at a North London, with about 40% of students from an Asian background.

The headteacher there could never pronounce non-english names properly either, when she had to read them out in presentation assemblies - there used to be a running joke that "to save time in Miss X's assemblies, all pupils of Asian origin shall henceforth be known by their candidate number only"

MadisonAvenue · 26/06/2018 17:58

That's very rude!

We have an Irish surname which people constantly spell wrong and also mispronounce (they add a D where there isn't one, when writing or saying) - the time which annoyed me the most was when it was read out wrong by a school governor (reading from the list in a programmers where it was actually correctly spelt) at an awards evening when our son was collecting a prize.

Cakepop9 · 26/06/2018 18:10

That’s horrible, I bet people were upset but might not feel able to say something because they’d be seen as causing a fuss.

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