Poor people being priced out

[veggifriedbreakfast]

I live in East London and need to move, I currently rent a 2 bedroom flat. But, looking around now, for a 2 bedroom the minimal is £1400 a month up to £2000 for a 2 bed!!!

It seems to me that what is happening is that actually poor people are being priced out of London. I lived in Stratford and had to move out of there due to the market going up and now where I am again it's happening. How can people on lesser incomes afford this? I am now looking to having to uproot ds again and move even further out because of this. Aibu in thinking that this is a part of forcing the poorer people out of London?

Honestly you’d have to pay me more than that for me to agree to live in London.

Rural poverty is much worse than poverty in London by a long way because there are so few jobs. One reason houses are so cheap in Northumberland not that far from where I am from is absence of jobs. I know someone in Cornwall and they talk about the lack of jobs there too. (I had to move from the NE for work in the 80s as indeed some of my ancestors moved to the NE for work in the 1800s).

so I guess as long as all the people in London get to live exactly where they want on low rents then the rest of us can go hang.

Yes, that seems to sum up a lot of the attitudes.

And? If an area is popular the prices will increase. Not everyone has to live in London. People who stay will need to earn more money, what's wrong with that?

Well there is still a lot of social housing in London, both Council and Housing Assocuation, including Chelsea, Westminster and Chelsea. Also Lambeth, Hackney, Islington and Southwark. It is more working and middle class people being pushed out of London. I think there should be more diversity on housing estates and not just long term unemployed. It is social engineering but I don’t know what they are hoping to achieve.

The flipside of 'I can't afford to live in London despite growing up there' are the people who live in places like the Welsh valleys where there is very little work, who equally simply want to live and work near to where they grew up too.

For them, it's not housing that's too expensive, far from it, it's the chronic lack of employment opportunities. Why on earth should they be forced to move far from their family and friends to find work?

Very interesting point.

I'm from barking, so zone 4. My mum and Dad both moved a bit further out to zone's 5/6 but I've been priced out completely. I live 70 miles from my home town now.

Any situation that precludes people purely on the basis of not being able to afford it is inherently wrong.

so does that go for restaurants, handbag makers, clothes shops, cars etc. They tried communism. that didn't work either.

Moving out of London could easily be the solution.

Check this out, five minute walk from the station, journey to King's Cross 65 minutes, season ticket £7,200 a year.

www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-68890604.html

Google the deprivation indices maps and see for example that the whole of the South west falls into this category. Not a little bit of it, the whole of it.

the only answer is to bring the jobs out to the rural areas and to stop concentrating them and the investment in London.

move some of the government departments out - or all of them actually. move the House of Lords out.

Give proper massive subsidies to companies setting up outside of London. not piddly little heres a couple of grand type ones but proper game changers.

and you know why this wont happen? because those making the decisions just couldn't bear to be without their massive transport infrastructure, superfast broadband, coffee shop on every street, culture etc.

You choose to live and work in London and you have massive benefits. but guess what? you have to pay for it.

what a novelty. things cost money. who would have guessed it.

what a novelty. things cost money. who would have guessed it.

YOU RAVING CAPITALIST!

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It's also like this in Chester.
I'll never be able to own my own home and I fear that my children will be priced out too

Also a house should be to nest, not to invest

We own thank god, but our best friends are being forced to move over 30 mins away from us because their landlord has decided to increase their rent. This is in Z2 and they're increasing their rent from £900 to £1100 a month for a large double bedroom with a sofa and tv and desk etc (essentially a shabby studio with separate kitchen) in a SHARED HOUSE. 5 people living there.

It's absolutely disgusting, and this is in a not great area in SW! Absolutely social cleansing, I would be utterly priced out if not for Inheriting our flat (which I am aware is insanely lucky of us).

it is absolutely social cleansing.

I don’t many people who can afford to live where their parents can.
All my friends parents bought in the golden age of the 70s and had massive houses.

DH couldn’t afford to buy where his parents lived (Glasgow.) his parents never believed it, they had minimum wage jobs and he was a professional. He also had to move away for work.

Most of the people I knew who moved to London wouldn’t leave as they didn’t want to give up their big wages and there is ‘nothing to do’ outside of London. Only having multiple children forced them eventually.

Companies should move out of London but they wont. They think everyone will die from lack of culture and the cold up north probably

I might have to move further North, can't afford anywhere in the SE (and even if we could they don't accept anybody in receipt of DSS), but my entire family lives in Surrey/Kent. If I move further up, I won't be able to afford the travel to visit

How so many people think this is fair is beyond me, I'm not adverse to moving but having to do it again after moving just 6 years ago is damaging to ds, how anyone can think that that is right has me in disbelief.

mummymeister im sick of the tenant blaming around this issue.

i posted a long article in a similar thread about how the housing associations are now selling off their properties and it got ignored..........because tenant haters see what they want to see.

@veggifriedbreakfast

What a load of twaddle - lots of children have to move house to entirely new areas several times. They all survive. How do you think all the forces children get by? They aren't all snowflakes!

Move further out and commute like everyone else has to - noone is entitled to live where they can't afford.

Property prices everywhere have gone absolutely crazy. Is it sustainable that a wealthy person can now only afford a working class house? If wealthy people can only scrape together enough to live in houses meant for poor people, where are the poor people meant to live?