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Mimmim112 · 24/06/2018 15:31

I’ve been seeing my boyfriend for four months, and we’ve spent quite a lot of time together in that time so although it’s still early days we have got to know each other quite well. I actually feel that I am falling in love with him if not already in love. In terms of values, interests, morals, personality etc he seems to be pretty much everything I’ve been looking for. We get on very well, and he has said on several occasions that I’m the first person to accept him the way he is and he really appreciates that. He mentioned that previous girlfriends tried to ‘change him’ and it made him really unhappy.

He is very kind, caring, responsible, honest but he is quite ‘closed off’ in the sense that he doesn’t express any affection towards me. For example he will never compliment my appearance even if I’ve spent a long time getting ready, nor will he hug me or kiss me or put his arm around me etc. If I make the first move he doesn’t recoil and seems very happy to reciprocate if I go to cuddle or kiss him, and our sex life is good. In fact he has commented that he thinks we are particularly compatible sexually, which I agree with.

I have brought up the fact that I would like more affection from him but he has said that that is just the way he is, that he doesn’t seem to be able to do anything about it, that he sees it as a flaw in himself that he is aware of and it is something that previous girlfriends have had a big issue with also. So it looks as though I will have to just accept that as it it’s not likely to change, or else end it.

The other thing that bothers me is that while we tend to see each other every weekend and that often turns into a long weekend, when we’re not together he barely texts me and never calls me. I have said to him that I would like him to phone me and stay in closer touch in the 4/5 days in a row we’re apart, but that is something that has never improved and also I guess it’s not likely to change ever.

Although it’s not something that is ideal for me, given the other aspects of the relationship and our compatibility in other areas I’ve been working on accepting this because I know the other option is to end it which I really don’t want to do.

He also shows he cares in other ways, he listens and advises if I have problems, he drives a long way to see me, he buys me presents and is always keen to see me and invite me to things.

However I was looking back at some of our earlier messages from the first month or two and realised that he did used to be a lot more loving and complimentary in the things he said. Which sounds ridiculous in the context of a four month relationship, it’s not as though we’ve been together 10 years or anything for the romance to naturally fade! And that’s a worry for me. He used to say things like ‘I’m really glad I met you, I think this could be the start of something good’, and send me sweet, sort of romantic messages, which he absolutely does not do now.

So my question is, is this just that he is this way and I shouldn’t take it personally or as a measure of how much he cares, or is this a case of he’s actually losing interest and is dressing it up as him being not very emotional/romantic. I would say the physical affection (or lack of) has always been the same, there doesn’t seem to have been a decline in that, it’s just never really been there, but certainly the romantic messages and compliments via text do seem to have become less.

I don’t want to stay in a relationship where someone is losing interest in me obviously! But I’m finding it really hard to judge whether it is that or just his personality. I’m finding I’m turning it round and round my head constantly and it’s making it even harder to judge because now when he sends me a message I’m over analysing it. I know the principles of ‘he’s just not that into you’ would say if you’re having to wonder about his feelings then he’s not into you. However given that this is a problem of his (in his words) that he has recognised, that bothers him, that he struggles with, and that exes have brought up time and time again with him it makes me wonder whether that applies in this case.

I very rarely meet people that I connect with, and I feel a very strong compatibility and connection with him in every other way which is why I’d be reluctant to break up with him if he is actually into me. No one and no relationship is perfect, after all.

He says that he really likes me on the occasions that I’ve brought up the subject although he’s not said that he loves me.

I really don’t know what to do for the best, please help!

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Extravagant · 24/06/2018 15:40

I don’t think he’s necessarily losing interest. He probably just feels more secure now that you’ve been going out a few months, so doesn’t need to keep saying how glad he is you are together.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 24/06/2018 15:41

Oooh! I don't know that is going to be acceptable for long.

I've been with my DH for 33 years, married for 29. And we still send daft messages and tell each other soppy crap... I will admit he does the "I love you" too often, it feels like punctuation not sentiment sometimes.

Butif your OH is aware, knows how it has made a number of women feel and still doesn't make an effort to contact you a little more, with a bit more feeling then, whatever his reasons, that is how he is, who is is!

If you are making yourself miserable wondering then he quite simply is not a good partner for you, he isn't fulfilling your very basic need of wanting to be wanted. And that will only fester.

You could try one last conversation... or you could just tell him that he is no longer needed and walk away!

Mimmim112 · 24/06/2018 15:43

Thank you for your replies, reading that back i feel like I sound maybe a bit pathetic like I’m clinging on whilst not getting much back, but honestly if I really felt I knew he wasn’t into me, I would end the relationship. Just finding it very hard to tell!

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JennyHolzersGhost · 24/06/2018 15:48

I think you’re overthinking it. At this stage a relationship is meant to be about fun and enjoying each other. The initial woo-ing period has worn off and so he’s not being quite as effusive but he sounds fundamentally quite a self contained guy who enjoys your company and you have a good time together. I would give it until your first anniversary and then consider whether the relationship fully meets your needs. Do you think that perhaps this feeling of needing emotional reassurance all the time comes from some insecurities and past experiences you’ve had ?

Aquamarine1029 · 24/06/2018 15:48

I'm sorry, but I think this relationship is a disaster waiting to happen. He says he can't change who he is, but don't forget that applies to you as well! Like you, I need my husband to be affectionate and "plugged in" to our relationship, and luckily he is. You need that, too. Can you imagine a life with partner who never provides that for you? It would be soul crushing and the resentment that will build up will eventually drown you.

Some aspects of your personalities may be compatible, but some very huge aspects are worlds apart. You just aren't suited for each other I'm afraid.

Mimmim112 · 24/06/2018 15:56

@JennyHolzersGhost I was thinking that maybe I need to put a time limit on it, and if I still feel confused and worried by then then it’s best to end it. I have definitely struggled with insecurity due to my childhood and past experiences with men but I’ve had a lot of therapy and worked hard and am normally ok. This does seem to be bringing it out in me though which is why it’s hard to look at things objectively sometimes

@Aquamarine1029 I really do take your point, and sometimes recently I have thought it’s not worth it, I’ll end it. I guess I’m not quite there yet and feel like I need to give it a bit more time to be sure. I don’t want to act too hastily.

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Tistheseason17 · 24/06/2018 16:00

Honestly.. If he's not giving you what you need, now, then he never will.

Why settle? You'll only waste time instead of moving on to someone better suited.

There are people who don't mind not speaking every day and he needs to be with someone who is like that.

Personally, my hubby and I have been together 15+ yrs, 2 kids and still luvvy divvy to each other daily. That's what both of us wanted.

If he won't/Can't give you what you need, that is ok for him, but not you, so cut your losses sooner rather than later.

Pumpkintopf · 24/06/2018 16:03

If he was different in the beginning clearly he is capable of expressing affection, he just isn't doing it anymore . And if this is 'the real him' and it bothers you, maybe cut your losses and move on.

Zaphodsotherhead · 24/06/2018 16:07

We've got a thread about this. This is your future if you continue with this relationship...
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/relationships/3286455-anyone-else-s-oh-not-affectionate-at-all

lolaflores · 24/06/2018 16:17

If the quality of his interaction has made you feel as though it isn't sufficient after 4 months and you are asking yourself these questions then you know the answer deep down.
You are obviously a very emotionally intelligent person attuned to what he is offering. You have calculated it and found there is an imbalance.
This will lead to resentment in the long run and so t try and change him, analyze hi.or over look it because it is a core priority for you. It's like 2 people speaking different languages and he is unable to learn yours.
He knows it too and can't understand why it matters.

Unicornandbows · 24/06/2018 16:25

Some people are more affectionate than others.. There is no changing that.. It doesn't mean he doesn't have feelings but I think he needs to find someone who is on the same level of needs. Just as you need someone who is more on the same needs as you..

I know both types of couple who are happily married just view their relationship à lot more differently

JennyHolzersGhost · 24/06/2018 17:04

I think that sometimes people with a past history which causes them to feel insecure can really struggle when they feel emotionally vulnerable / exposed in an intimate relationship. You’re seeking reassurance from him and he isn’t providing enough of it. Whether you should adjust to coping without it or look for someone who can give it to you is a difficult one though. I know people who have gone in each of those directions. There’s no right answer. I think the best question to ask is whether you feel you can be open with him about how your growing feelings for him are triggering your emotional vulnerabilities. It may be that even if he doesn’t change his behaviour to deliver what you feel you need, just him understanding where you’re coming from may make you feel more supported and secure.
Does that make any sense ?! Not sure if I’m expressing this well.

HollowTalk · 24/06/2018 17:11

I wouldn't be interested. Fair play to him if he wants to be like that, but it wouldn't suit me at all.

He is expecting you to change, to cope with being with him. After four months!

No, OP, you are the same as his exes - you want a level of affection this man cannot give.

Nikephorus · 24/06/2018 17:23

He is expecting you to change, to cope with being with him. After four months!
With all due respect OP is expecting him to change, to cope with being with her. He made a real effort to be who she wanted at the beginning and now he feels comfortable enough to be himself. He's admitted that he's not good at initiating physical affection and, like many people, he's not the type to need constant communication, but you say yourself that he's caring in other ways - surely it's better that he shows care and affection in practical ways that matter long-term? Texting you every hour wouldn't mean he cared - it would just mean that he was changing his natural way to satisfy your neediness. And he'd probably get really sick of having to change.
So either accept that you'll BOTH have ways that don't really suit the other (which is normal in a decent relationship) or finish it now in the hope that Mr Perfect is out there waiting for you.
(Mumsnet naturally would prefer that you dump him because they have failed relationships and can't bear seeing other people be happy...)

Zaphodsotherhead · 24/06/2018 17:35

On the other hand, Nikephorus, it is utterly hideous to live with someone who doesn't ever hold your hand, kiss you, sit next to you, cuddle you - they can do all the housework you like and 'express their love' in numerous other ways, but there is something uniquely lonely in being in tears, desperately wanting a hug, and seeing your SO sitting on their phone, completely oblivious.

HollowTalk · 24/06/2018 17:43

The OP isn't saying she wants a text every hour, ffs! She said he rarely texts - that's completely different.

And you have it completely wrong about Mumsnet advising posters to dump - in this situation the problems the OP and her boyfriend will encounter are easily seen. After only four months where such incompatibility is obvious, then why keep the relationship going?

Mimmim112 · 24/06/2018 18:01

Thank you everyone, all your replies are really helpful. I’ll be re-reading them and thinking about everything you’re saying

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