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to ask the council to be moved

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cmlover · 17/06/2018 13:15

on the 13th I disturbed a burglary at my flat, complete luck that I came home early that day, as normally I'd be at work all day.

any way they heard me or saw me coming and legged it but I bumped into them on the stair way flat (just out side my flat)

the police have logged and took finger prints

the men have been in the flat building every day since, yesterday actually sitting out side my flat door. the police have come each time, they know what they look like where they are staying at the moment.. 10 doors up from me. but yet they havnt done any thing, they walk around with out a care in the world.

they are druggies come down from London to push drugs and I believe that is why they keep coming back to my flat apartment to set up a base to sell from

I can't send my kids out to play as there scared of them, they can't get to school and I can't get to work with out walking past them or the place they are staying at ( a known druggies house)

iv had a new door a d lock but we just don't feel safe living here no more. I hate coming home and wondering if there sat in the steps or by my flat.
I want to ask the council to move us but I also feel really stupid for being so scared of them and that the council will laugh at me for even asking.

so would ibu to ask for a move?

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Miladamermalada · 17/06/2018 16:25

Get on homeswapper. Someone in another flat could swap with you x

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cmlover · 17/06/2018 17:51

no not Ipswich but a town not far from there. but I do know the incident your thinking of I think, the one at mc donals?

I'm on on homeswapper and Facebook exchange
It's a shame as all my neighbours in apartment are lovely, don't do drugs and are friendly. (there are only 5 flats to the apparent so we know each other well)

which makes it weirder as we don't get people in or out of the apartment who deal with stuff like that. there's plenty more suitable flats up the road that they could take advantage of and not be bothered.

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Iputthescrewinthetuna · 17/06/2018 18:12

I haven't read the whole thread but...
I was broken in to when I was 21. (It was actually my 21st bday)
I was at work. My exdp had actually only popped to his mums for an hour.
The people who broke into my flat lived 3 floors below me.
I begged the council to move me. They didn't. No matter what I did. The only reason I managed to move was because my then MIL paid 50K deposit on a house for us after a year of begging the council. The people who broke into us were constantly watching our coming and goings. Before we moved into a new home, we bought an Iron gate. It cost a couple of hundred pounds but it made us feel so much safer. Especially when we were advised to keep it unlocked through the night in case if fire as the fire services struggle to get through them.
Is this something you can do?

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cmlover · 17/06/2018 18:46

that so horriable iputitthescrew
I'm so glad you managed to move. I have a new different lock so I'm not so much worried they can get in.

it's more that there crack heads hanging in my apartment and I can't work out why, one of then men proper stared me down Friday afternoon as inwas walking back from work. it's just intermadating.

I hope my local council are more understanding, esp as it's a small town and we don't have the same differculties with social housing as say London. maybe .. fingers crossed.

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Iputthescrewinthetuna · 17/06/2018 19:19

I am in Birmingham, council are low in houses/flats. I was lucky ex Mil was so lovingly generous and financially able.
I would try MP. Writing an email to MP can help your application.
Its horrible not feeling safe.

I was OK. The people who broke into mine were heroin users. They were vile people. I used to see them watching out their window when I left.
The day I was broken into one of them was standing outside when I left for work. I did think it was strange but thought nothing of it apart from 'must be waiting for a dealer to bring them a hit'
When DP left for his Mums he said he noticed he was standing outside...(4 hours later)
When DP arrived home, the girl was standing at her window, saw DP pull up in car and she put the phone up to her ear as if she was making a call. DP said he knew in that instant what he was walking into. He even went via the stairs after calling the lift. He wanted to trick them. It didn't work.
Anyway, I came out of work, thought it was strange DP was there, but I thought maybe he is taking me out for my big bday.
He told me what had happened, I got home and I went all ninja on their front door, in less than an hour they had sold all of our stuff, except for a couple of DPs Computer games.
Police didn't help much as they said they left no evidence. Literally not one bit!
I think the thing that bothered me the most, apart from the fear, was the dirty tramps stole my grapes! Yep, not only did they steal my TV and valuables they thought they'd have a mooch in my fridge too! I couldn't use my fridge after that, or any food in my home!
I felt horrible when I saw them after. I was scared to but a new TV because of how much they could watch us.
Council, they didn't even write the scum a letter to tell them a complaint had been made. I could not believe they were not helpful in the slightest. I remember one council member told me I would not get a move unless a few things happened... I would need to be physically hurt or threatened, after this I would need to make a complaint and mediation would be offered!
Op, I really hope you have better luck than I did! I had DP with me, believe me when I say he was not allowed to go anywhere on the evening as I was so scared of being alone!

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cmlover · 17/06/2018 19:54

id have been terrified, as if the council said that. why would You Want to go to mediation with crack heads who stole from you.
it's funny the little things upset you most, I'm really anoyed at myself that I had appogised to one of them as id literally bumped into him as he came flying down the stairs. they must og thought it hilarious.

thank God for your ex mil.

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Iputthescrewinthetuna · 17/06/2018 20:16

Ooh that would annoy me too, being polite to them after they did that!

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cmlover · 19/06/2018 19:25

just an update iv spoken to the council theve been emailed what's happened and will be in touch hopfully I will be moved up a band.

my housing officer at the moment seems to think it's possible and may even back me if they argue it.
fingers crossed.

he's been back, police have been back and raided two houses but they wernt caught up in it , I saw him on my break from work, as I work at the end of my road walked past blantly staring me down, then stood right in front of me till I moved from the bench. he knows what he's doing and it's working.

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Iputthescrewinthetuna · 20/06/2018 12:51

Oh op, I wish you the best of luck with the moving up a band! I hope this is done quickly for you

mickeymacca · 20/06/2018 12:55

Do you get housing benefit? If so would it cover your rent if you privately rented? A crisis loan to help with the move etc? I'd be doing everything to get out of there. Doesn't sound like anyone will want to swap with u

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cmlover · 20/06/2018 13:06

I get some housing benifit but even then i don't think I could afford it. for a run down 2 bed house in my town is 670 plus incant afford the deposit and months rent up front, because even though council do schemes they don't give you the deposit up front it's more of a legal agreement with the landlord that they will pay and from other people's experience finding a landlord to accept that is hard.

finding money for the move if i get it will be hard enough but i will find it even if I have to beg and please and borrow.

but I'm feeling semi positive something good will come from this, esp if my housing officer who is lovely will back me.

no one wanted to swap with me before this drama so deff not now, if i was ground floor then maybe but 1st floor rules out swapping with elderly as we have no lift and no other like for like couple is going to want to swap with a shitty run down flat.

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queencrunch · 20/06/2018 13:11

I hope you get moved. Keep calling them. Keep reporting him to the police. Fingers crossed for you

cathcath2 · 20/06/2018 14:21

Who owns the drug dealer's properties? If it is also HA ask them for an antisocial behaviour log to fill in (I'd probably ask for one regardless, as it may help for evidence for rebanding). Log every incident.
Also, mark all your stuff with UV marker so the police can prove it's yours if they do manage to nick it.

Good luck. I really hope that you get this sorted.

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cmlover · 20/06/2018 14:38

ohh that's a good point I would asume ha to, theve been raided numerous times but nothing ever sticks, but this is a great idea.

I spoke to my housing officer she's writing a letter today, and is also making sure down stairs doors are being sorted as emergency unlike what normal housing people told me 3 to 7 weeks. so she's being great.

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SecretSantaaaaaa · 20/06/2018 14:41

they got into my flat via the letter box

How small are they?

All jokes aside, yes this could be Cuckooing. Can you set up CCTV outside, even if it is fake?

They may move you, but you would have to ask them, not us.

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cmlover · 20/06/2018 14:46

screactsanta that actually made me laugh 🤣

my neighbour opersit me (building is like a L shape) has brought a camera to put up and can be viewed via a app on her phone.

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