Can I park here or would it make me a CF?

[MaryPoppinsPenguins]

Visiting DH parents... its park here or park most of the street away.

DH chose far away. But come on, that is not a driveway.

or ok to park legally but actually blocking the drive opposite.

Really blocking? Or just blocking people who are rubbish at getting in/out of their drive?

My parents spent 30 years not parking outside their house because the guy opposite couldn't figure out how to get in and out of his own drive. I lived somewhere where half the people had work vans, and we all managed to get in and out of our own drives, on a narrower road.. Some people seem to think that a lack of ability to reverse means their neighbours can't legally park.

Highway code no. 243: "DO NOT stop or park in front of an entrance to a property". The existence or otherwise of a dropped kerb is irrelevant in the eyes of the 'law'.

What? If you could never park in front of somebody's front door there would be no on-street parking in cities. Use your common sense!

MaryPoppinsPenguins

"this is the house two doors or so down from PIL (a road that is a nightmare to park on) We have presents, birthday cake, two kids and a dog"

So what? Are you all incapable of quickly stopping by PIL's house and you, kids, dog, cake, and presents get out then your husband parks where ever he wants to?

My in-laws live somewhere with such nightmare parking that we list it as the main reason we'd never move there. My husband just stops briefly in front of his Mum's dropped curb and I get everything out quickly then he finds a parking spot.

He could have stopped there dropped you all off with all the stuff then driven further away parked himself and walked back himself. Why do you all have to arrive as one big gang? Use common sense it's always a favourite of mine.

Why didn’t you park there temporarily to unload the kids, dog and other stuff and then let your DH move it after a few mins to a space he was more comfortable with?

Op, I’m with you. PP who said that it costs £2000 and that she ‘loves all the ‘comfortably off’ saying get your kerbs dropped’ is so entitled. Round where I live so many entitled CFs have not dropped their kerbs and the pavements are a mess of broken slabs making it difficult for the elderly, wheelchair users and pram pushers to walk.
I hate this attitude of ‘ I can’t afford it but I’m still going to have it’ and all of you who have told the op that she IBU are enabling these entitled twats.

you could block them OUT but not IN

Really blocking? Or just blocking people who are rubbish at getting in/out of their drive?

On a narrow road, with people parked on both sides and the twat parking opposite but legally, it's impossible or at least very difficult to get out in a normal size car. It's also obvious to any driver.

Look at the school parking threads, there are no limit of idiots or selfish twats.

This can’t have been the first time you’ve had trouble parking at your PIL. Couldn’t you drop off passengers and then find the nearest proper space, what’s wrong with a little walk?
Sunday’s round here are always busy with extra cars plus it’s Father’s Day.

I don't get it either.

Would you park where you've drawn on it?

No idea of the legality, but common human courtesy says you'd be a massive twat if you blocked that car in.

If they were not on the 'drive' then they would be parked in front of their house so you wouldn't be able to park there anyway. I'd have more of a problem with people who have drives, taking away parking space on the road, but then don't park on them.

We have presents, birthday cake, two kids and a dog and I found it annoying that DH felt we couldn’t park there

So why didn't he just stop outside your parents' house and let you unload before parking elsewhere?

They haven’t paid to have the kerb dropped

If they'd paid and had the kerb dropped, you still wouldn't be able to park there. What difference does their willingness to pay make?

If they'd paid and had the kerb dropped, you still wouldn't be able to park there. What difference does their willingness to pay make?

Because the council would have evaluated & made a decision as to whether the kerb could be dropped or not taking into account a variety of factors including access, parking, other road users & possibly strengthening the pavement. They may very well have refused, it’s not an automatic entitlement.

Normal people wouldn't even consider the dropped kerb or lack of it. There's a car park somewhere, you naturally don't block it, common sense, common courtesy, basic responsible driver. I am amazed that people even take time to consider it.

Isn't this just an obvious case of two wrongs don't make a right? They driver without a dropped kerb is being a dick, if you blocked them in you'd be as bad.

Normal people wouldn't even consider the dropped kerb or lack of it. There's a car park somewhere, you naturally don't block it, common sense, common courtesy, basic responsible driver. I am amazed that people even take time to consider it.

^^ This

@DailyMailReadersAreThick:

www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/uploads/3/2/9/2/3292309/the-official-highway-code-with-annexes-uk-en-12-04.pdf

Their page 24, code 243 - the Highway Code's rules, not mine. I didn't make up the rules myself! - you've heard of the Highway Code, you know, don't park near a junction/roundabout, on the brow of a hill..???

The dropped kerb-blocking rules are in that same section btw stating no stopping or parking "where the kerb has been lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles" - nothing about dropped kerbs to turn your front garden into a accessible driveway having to be kept clear. However, common sense surely and a sense of not wishing to be an entitled selfish aresehole preclude one from parking across someone's drive where they clearly use it to get on and off their property!

Some of the HC can be result in criminal charges if not adhered to (generally where it says MUST / MUST NOT), otherwise it may only be used the capacity of supporting a case against you in a prosecution under the Road Traffic Act.

Similarly, outside of London it's not not ok to park on the pavement but clearly, anyone who does so and impedes pedestrians, prams, mobility scooters, visually impaired, wheelchair users is an arse so common sense and decency should trump everything else. Like it should in this case and certainly if the house in question is only 2 doors down from the PIL.

BettyPitts - my comment (as you we’ll know) was in regards to you saying you didn’t get it, despite me now having written it down about a thousand times. I don’t know how to explain it any clearer, honestly.

I’d park there. The kerb is not dropped so you can park on the street legally and maybe it will give those people the kick up the arse they need to apply for a dropped kerb.

Parking is a nightmare in my nana’s street. She can’t walk very far and we need to park close to her house when we drive her anywhere. Her neighbour decided to put concrete all over his front garden and put a bit of wood down under the raised kerb to pretend it was a proper drive. We couldn’t care less and kept parking there, while also reporting him to planning and the highway department. A couple of months later he got his dropped kerb. So now we can’t park there anymore but at least justice was served!

I don't know.

You've actually made me cry. Thanks.

I don’t get it. So many threads telling posters that ‘you are not entitled to park outside your own house, the road is for anyone to park on’ and ‘if you wanted to park outside your house get a house with a drive’ and also ‘ you shouldn’t have bought a house near a school’ etc. Yet MaryPoppins is told that actually, no she can’t park on the road that ‘ is for anyone to park on’ and that yes actually you are entitled to park outside your house even if it means you can illegally mount the pavement, causing progressive damage to it!

BettyPitts - you seem very emotional. Maybe this isn’t the place for you. My comment meant ‘read the fucking thread’ and nothing more.

Alwaysmyfault - I thought that too!