To wish we had cctv on every single street int he whole of the U.K.

[LardLizard]

As every time there’s an incident the police ask people if they have any cctv footage or dash cam footage

No thank you.

Just because I am not doing anything wrong doesn't mean that I want to be watched all the time. The people who say if I've nothing to hide I should not worry don't seem to understand that I still want privacy.

I compare it to going to the toilet. It's not illegal, or immoral, but I certainly don't want someone to watch me doing it! So the same stands for the rest of my life, I just don't want to be watched, even though I have nothing particular to hide.

Some people are just GAGGING to give up their freedoms for a false sense of security

This thread is unbelievable, ppl are walking into 1984 and aren't aware they're doing it.

There’s far more crime than dodgy police though and as to say just put more people in the street that is never going to happen with non stop cutbacks
Which will only get worse

I don’t reallt care if someone on cctv sees me scratching my arse either
So what

We have it in all the town and city’s anyway
Like someone else said you are not even aware of the huge amount you are watched and filmed anyway

What I’m saying is just extend it further to cover everywhere

Er, no thanks. Big Brother & all that.

Oo-er, Moonlight. Scary stuff. Thanks for the link.

I'm all for ID cards and DNA databases. Not fussed about CCTV to be honest

Yes that would be great. If you're doing nothing wrong there's nothing to hide

The state is here for our benefit, not the other way round. If you have done nothing wrong then the state shouldn't have the right to demand information of you. Yes most police are decent hard working people. It only needs a corrupt, arrogant minority to ruin our hard won freedoms and there are plenty of those. Look at undercover police abusing women, nothing to hide, nothing to fear?

I know Solo - and it all starts so innocuously.

The concerns people have around broadening of both surveillance and the broadening acceptance of it (as seen in this thread), has nothing to with having anything to hide, and everything to do with how that surveillance can be misused or misinterpreted.

As an example, lets say Lard or kermit or Polo crosses an empty street, with clear visibility in both directions, in the middle of two crossings, 100 metres each away in Austria. This is picked up on CCTV, facial recognition employed, your address located and a fine automatically issued. You've created no risk, caused no disruption but broken the law - so you pay for it - I assume you'd have no issue with that?
Or, you are in Austria on hols, in the city and close to the street where the 'crime' happened, but the facial recognition system makes an error in identifying you and the CCTV doesn't entirely zoom in, but that plus facial recognition is considered sufficient proof it was you. So, there's no independent witnesses, or police who asked for ID of the person they caught jaywalking so, how can you prove otherwise? Would you have an issue with that?

The examples above are just small ones of how easy it is for someone with "nothing to hide" to become a criminal when there's no right to reply or when surveillance picks up a mistake that breaks the law, but doesn't harm anyone or anything (i.e. jaywalking's not a crime in the UK, so you didn't think about law-breaking when crossing that Austrian street.)