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carrotcake121 · 15/06/2018 17:50

sorry but I probably am on the wrong thread. I am quite new to MN and would like to ask you for a bit of advice. My question is what level should a child achieve by the end of year 7. My son is a bit below average and I just needed a guide of where he should be aiming without putting to much pressure on him.
Thanks in advance

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Acopyofacopy · 15/06/2018 17:57

All schools make up their own levels now, and quite a few don’t share them with parents.
They should inform you on a report whether your ds is making more/less than or expected progress.

Vixnixtrix1981 · 15/06/2018 18:04

We had no idea what the levels meant last year, when DS was in Year 7! This year they have done that Fisher Family Trust thing and given us expected GCSE grades and then how he is performing in relation to his expected grades.

stoplickingthetelly · 15/06/2018 18:15

My average year 7s are working at around grade 2. That's equivalent to GCSE grade 2.

BackforGood · 15/06/2018 18:31

There isn't a level a child "should" be at, the thing to be looking out for, is that they are making progress.

carrotcake121 · 15/06/2018 18:58

Thank you for your feed back

@stoplickingthetelly
Is gcse grade 2 a 'B'

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sakura06 · 15/06/2018 19:00

No, GCSE grade 2 is more like an E/F, but that's pretty good for a Year 7!

Lucyccfc · 15/06/2018 19:01

The new grades translate to:

9 - A**
8 - A*
7 - A
6 - B
5 - high C
4 - low C
3 - D
2 - E
1 - F

Minniemooseishere · 15/06/2018 19:02

All depends on the school.

We have a website to log in and look at grades and progress reports. They have what they should be by the end of year 7, dd is where she should be for most subjects but behind in a couple but still in the top set. It makes no sense to me.

carrotcake121 · 15/06/2018 19:03

@BackforGood

I understand what your saying I just do not want him falling to far behind his peers. I was just making sure he is on the right track.
He is making progress on most subjects.

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Fruitcorner123 · 15/06/2018 19:03

Is gcse grade 2 a 'B'

No

here are the grades

G/F = GRADE 1
E = GRADE 2
D = GRADE 3
C (LOWEST 66% ROUGHLY) = GRADE 4
C (HIGHEST 33% ROUGHLY) = GRADE 5
B = GRADE 6
A = GRADE 7
A* (LOWEST 66% ROUGHLY) = GRADE 8
A* (HIGHEST 33% ROUGHLY) = GRADE 9

currently a grade 4 is considered a 'pass'but a grade 5 is called a higher pass

We think you are likely to need a 5 for the kinds of jobs that currently require a C but we don't really know yet. It may depend on the career. To do A Level most schools will require at least a 6.

TheHobbitMum · 15/06/2018 19:03

My Yr 7 is currently at 3/4 level if that helps

Acopyofacopy · 15/06/2018 19:05

OP, you need to ask your school. Nobody on here will know if a 2 is a B.
At my dd’s school you are assigned a flight path. Hers is 6-8, and she is making expected progress.
At the school I teach at, she probably would be an A- or S+.
National curriculum levels do not exist any more, every school uses a different system and it’s all about progress now.

NewYearNewMe18 · 15/06/2018 19:07

My son is a bit below average and I just needed a guide of where he should be aiming without putting to much pressure on him.

Please ask his teachers, not a chat board where everyones child goes to mythical Oxbridge as a child genius.

carrotcake121 · 15/06/2018 19:08

@Lucyccfc
Thank you that has sorted it for me.
Thanks all for your help.

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stoplickingthetelly · 15/06/2018 19:09

My lower ability year 7s are mostly somewhere within grade 1 (most mid to lower end grade 1). Average child is around a lower ti mid grade 2. Higher ability child is around top grade 2/lower grade 3. By the end of year 9 I would expect my higher ability group to be around top grade 4/lower to mid grade 5. With a few even higher. My sch just use GCSE descriptors all the way through to track attainment and progress.

busybarbara · 15/06/2018 19:16

By the end of year 7 I'd expect him to be able to tie his shoe laces, make his own bed and be able to record and upload a video to YouTube.

carrotcake121 · 15/06/2018 20:43

@New YearNewMe18
I know what your saying is right and I did expect MNetters giving me this advice. But I am also glad that I received replies from secondary staff giving me a guide line. I know every child is different and my child definitely is.

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The3 · 15/06/2018 20:45

Grin @busybarbara

socraties1234 · 19/06/2018 11:10

marking post

PatriciaHolm · 19/06/2018 11:17

You really do need to ask the school. They can use whatever grading/tracking system they like - there is no one standard. A Grade 2 in one school may be vastly different to a Grade 2 in another.

I have 2 children at different schools, though same Academy chain, and they use completely different tracking systems - one child could be a 5+ at maths, say, and one is a "consolidating +"! Realistically the 5+ child is better at maths than the other, but there is no way one could tell that without an in-depth knowledge of each schools' way of tracking.

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