Neighbour using wheelie bin to save space?

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I live at the end of a cul de sac and have a drive with space for 1 car. Further up the street there are some terraced houses no driveways and on street parking outside their houses (not allocated to specific houses)

My teenage nephew is staying with us for a while and has been parking on the street by the terraces and one of the houses have obviously taken offence and have now started saving the space outside their house with their wheelie bin. Wibu to go and move it? Or are they right to be annoyed?

PirateWeasel, it doesn't really bother me that much, tbh.

If I have a lot of shopping, I park across my nice neighbour's drive and our drive, unload all the shopping and bring it indoors, then go and park somewhere else. It's just one of the aggravations of living somewhere that was built in the 1930s, when few people had cars and cars were much smaller.

Having a drive makes parking unavailable to other road tax payers.

I think OP is in the UK. We don't have a road tax, or anything linked to a right to park on roads.

I can see why your neighbour's are irked that you have added another car to the streets parking issues.

They must hate us round my way then. We have 2 cars, 4 motorbikes and a motorhome. One car and the motorhome are parked on the street.

We could theoretically get both cars on the drive, but it's narrow and steep. I'd have to reverse in, as if I go in forward, I can't get out: the fence is too close to open the driver's door. Reversing in makes the clutch burn something chronic, and you can't take a run at it, because there's only about 2" each clearance each side as you go through the gateposts. DP's car is much smaller, and goes in forwards.

Having part of the grass dug up to give us more parking space is on our list of things to do, but we need a new boiler, new windows and a new kitchen before we think about that.

Should add that our motorhome isn't a Winnebago type monster, its footprint is really no bigger than a big car.

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I agree he'd be best parking around the street in general. Spread it out etc.
I don't think he should avoid the part of the road near neighbour because they've tried to claim something that isn't theirs.

When the world start giving in and appeasing idiots like that, that's what tells them they can continue to behave like that. It very nuch relies on 'oh don't do x because neighbour might...' No. Sorry. The rules are the rules. They don't own the road and the stubborn part of me would make sure "their spot" was always included in the rotating parking just to remind them that they don't own the damn road.

I think Nephew should nick the wheelie bin.

I'm with your nephew. At least I think I am.

We have no driveway or parking space and one small car. One dd + ds due in 4 weeks. Ndn has driveway, garage and off road space. Two cars, one large, plus one motorcycle. No children at home. The wife drives her car daily and parks in the off road space. The husband rides the motorcycle daily and parks it in the garage. He likes to leave the driveway clear for access to this. His 4wd is parked perpetually outside our house. He drives it maybe once every 2 weeks. It is of course his perfect right, it's the public road. We park our car, which we use most days, wherever we can squeeze it in. I sometimes wonder if he feels any guilt when he sees my dh struggling to get the toddler, buggy and both their bags for the day into the car on his own on his way to nursery drop off. God knows how much harder this will be when I'm back at work after my next mat leave and there are 2 under 3 plus buggy etc for him to wrestle into our aging fiesta. On the rare occasions the ndn drives his car, and 'his' space is not available, funnily enough he finds space on his driveway. Likewise, if he has a visitor, he will move onto the driveway so the visitor can park outside our house. (Nb that even then he won't block in his own driveway!) In these instances, he will literally drive off the driveway and round the block so as to be waiting directly behind the departing visitor in order that there's no chance of someone else taking 'his' space. How he manages this when it's not his visitor in the space is beyond me. He must literally sit and watch the space. I've observed it first hand too many times to thinks it's a coincidence. He also likes to stand and watch the bin men (presumably to ensure they are careful not to scrape his precious vehicle) and berated his wife for the (still extremely clean) state of her car after she had had it cleaned but driven home some route or other that had apparently sullied the car in some way. So in conclusion, he's an odd and not very nice man who is parking well within the confines of the law. I will keep reminding myself that we are lucky to have a car and a house to with a space outside it in which we can't park. Maybe one day we will be luckier still and be able to afford a driveway conversion.

MaisyPops I totally get where you're coming from up to an extent. However, as you prioritised buying a house with two protected parking spaces, and believe that if anyone wants the convenience of parking outside their house they should do the same or suck it up... Your opinion is pretty much a moot point perhaps?.. Yes I have parking issues outside my home due to attempting to park 1 car vs ndn 3 large vehicles. I totally get it don't "own the road", and it's pretty much a 1st world problem having to trail up and down the street with shopping. However, it sounds like the OP's neighbour works shifts, hence the DN always bagging the same space right outside their house. In which case after a daily occurrence for extended weeks I'd imagine they are a bit miffed about it - Legally not a leg to stand on. Being fed up? I can see their side of it too.

If your nephew is able bodied, I would ask him, for harmony's sake, to park elsewhere.

And/Or talk to your neighbour and find out what the issue is.

It's not worth the aggravation really, is it?

Parking is a pain.
I live in a a street which runs 10 feet parallel to a main road. The neighbours on the main road park on this side.

Worked fine. Those with drives used them. Everyone parked in same spot to maximise parking some nose to tail .
Then new neighbour . Couple with 3 under 5's.
They have 2 cars & a motorbike.
Various neighbours politely said hello & asked if they could park in specific places.
They don't.
It scares me they drag the 3 kids over a busy main road. They could park round corner on that side quite safely .
We can lose 3 spaces in the street. They abandon the vehicles over 2 spaces regularly. It causes issues.
People then park in next Street. The knock on effect is a pain.
It's nice to be neighbourly & considerate but they have the" I'm alright Jack fxxk the rest " attitude.
The funny thing is we can all fit in if we stick to particular spots.
But nothing to be done it's just inconvenient to all concerned.

FlyingMonkeys
We've lived in an terrace with not enough parking before. We had one space and 2 cars like everyone else. We all had to suck it up because that was part of the package when we chose to live in a house with 1 car parking space.

When it came to moving, we made a list of what we wanted. We disliked the hassle of going up and down parking so that was a priority. We didn't have other features we may have liked.
If we'd opted to move to a house with 1 parking space again then I'm afraid we'd not have a leg to stand on if people parked there.

It's not a moot point at all. People make choices. There are pros and cons to all choices. That's life.

Should say again, I think the nephew should alternate where he's parking, but I wouldn't be avoiding one area compeltely just because it pisses someone off who opted not to get parking

"I think OP is in the UK. We don't have a road tax, or anything linked to a right to park on roads"

Oh, OK, vehicle tax, colloquially known round here as road tax.

It gives you the right to have your car on a public road, including parking. A dropped kerb to a drive makes that section of road unavailable to other road users to park on. Even though the owner of the drive has not paid for that bit of road.

My point stands whatever you call the tax. It stands without the tax aspect of it.

But do quibble pedantically if you feel the need.

MaisyPops I completely appreciate that. However I live in a decent sized 3 bed semi with effectively 2 car parking spaces in front not a terrace. The ndn takes up 3.5 spaces with their 3 vehicles as they like to leave a gap between each (not enough to park in 😕).

I can see this from both sides. We used to live in a road with no driveways. It was also near a train station so all the commuters used to park there during the week. It was an absolute nightmare and used to piss me off when I had to drag ds and shopping etc half way up the road because of commuters.

One of the neighbours thought the road outside his house belonged to him and used to leave notes and put mud on windscreens etc.

My oh was a commuter but used to come home get straight in the car and pick me up from work. One day the only place to park was outside this blokes house. The next night oh found a note on the car 'this isn't commuter parking, this is parking for residents and their visitors only' I went and knocked on his door and he apologised and we agreed the commuters are dicks and he never bothered us again.

So yeah I can see why you are annoyed but can also kind of see why your neighbour feels the need to put their wheelie bin there even though it's public road!

anne if it was residents parking only then your neighbour just needed to contact the authorities, if it was in fact public parking then as many comuters as could fit were able to park their regardless of his notes. I really don't understand why people think they have parking rights that they don't.

It wasn't residents parking! It was just a road. He'd decided that it was residents parking only!

It was an absolute nightmare so I can see his annoyance but at the same time if you don't like it don't live in a toad with no parking near a station!
We lived there less than year for that very reason! We have a lovely big drive now haha