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So poor and jobs are impossible.

245 replies

BellaJessica · 12/06/2018 20:30

I am increasingly getting down about my life. Today i have finally realised how poor i am. I earn £5000 a year working 14 hours a week in a job that was supposed to increase in hours but 2 years later and 3 new people later they are actually trying to get rid of me instead. I am applying to other jobs and just not hearing back from them at all. I have a degree in the arts and even jobs i would be great at wont accept me due to no experience or less than 2 years experience in that field. I think this is just a rant really. I have no savings and a big loan (£1,000). I can pay the loan off in time but its depressing isnt it? I live with my dm now and she works short hours so we get by but neither of us have savings or free money to do much. Just need to spend hours job searching again until someone accepts me.

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BellaJessica · 12/06/2018 21:41

Msjudgemental i have taken your point please stop banging on about how shit my writing is on an informal chat forum.

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BellaJessica · 12/06/2018 21:42

I dont know what matched betting is but i dont think betting is a sensible road for mw to go down.

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Tinkobell · 12/06/2018 21:42

OP - what about jobs centred around the seasonal tourism industries? You don't say where you are in the NW, but I'm from there. Styal Mill, National Waterways Museum, Chester Museums, tour bus curation, cathedral tours .....this kind of thing. Loads of stuff in Liverpool and Manchester??? Maybe try the local tourist boards?

LiteraryDevil1 · 12/06/2018 21:43

As one pp has said regarding how you might be coming across in interviews might be affecting your chances. Does the job centre or local college offer classes or advice in job applications and interviews? That would be a good starting point. Before doing my nurse training I worked as a health care assistant for an agency in Manchester. That was over 10 years ago and working nights I earned around £250 per week doing 3 nights. That's £13,000 a year. However I definitely think you need someone to be advising you on writing applications and interviews.

Tinkobell · 12/06/2018 21:44

What about some of the national trust places....Tatton Park etc.

Wildlingofthewest · 12/06/2018 21:44

As mentioned- if your looking for a job to earn more money there are plenty of entry level jobs that would provide you with far more money than you are currently making.
A degree in the “arts” with no tangible experience (and if you got the degree more than say 5 years ago) is not going to get you anywhere fast with out starting at the bottom and grafting.

LiteraryDevil1 · 12/06/2018 21:45

Sorry, just seen your update about not doing care work.

WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree · 12/06/2018 21:46

What was your degree?
I would say (again) at your age you need to get some focus.
What are you good at?
What jobs/roles at work were you best at?
What jobs were you getting interviews for?
Cultural sector in the NW is thriving - there are opportunities but you have to be tenacious and clear about where you want to get to.

LifeBeginsAtGin · 12/06/2018 21:48

I just applied to the unqualified teaching job

If you have just done this on the back of the advice at 20:45 you need to
be spending longer of your applications.

mishfish · 12/06/2018 21:48

If I were you I’d be sending my CV to lots of recruitment agencies for full time office junior type roles and spending my evenings and weekends working on a portfolio of whatever creative skills I can offer via websites like people per hour or voluntary work.

Rocinante1 · 12/06/2018 21:50

Honestly, you need to make a long term plan for what you want to do. And then look at paths to getting there.

I’m a designer, I run my business. I’m a well known name but it took 15 hour days for the last 5 years to get here. And I still work my ass off everyday. I’m always looking for designers to work with and ways to expand. I would not hire someone with a degree in the arts that they got years ago, who has only worked in random jobs with nothing to do with the field since.

You are not going to get a job in your field at the moment. You’re allowed to have rubbish feeling moments, but now you need to pick yourself up.

What is your goal? What is it that you want to be doing?

What is the first step to that goal? Where can you start right now?

BellaJessica · 12/06/2018 21:51

Lifebeginsatgin why? It asked for a cv only. I have a cv to hand.

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WindDoesNotBreakTheBendyTree · 12/06/2018 21:53

Ok well that will be why then, if you send your bog standard cv to everything.

Is your cv tuned to the specifics of the job, drawing out your skills and matching them to the competencies required of the job?

But tbh I call bullshit at this point, no-one recruits on just cvs, not in teaching....

ImSuchABigIdiot · 12/06/2018 21:53

MsJudgmental the OP said they’d be open to tuition opportunities, so that’s why I suggested it. I don’t know which subjects the OP could tutor as they haven’t specified which subjects they’d be able to tutor.

Buttercup53 · 12/06/2018 21:54

I’m a professional copywriter with an arts degree. If you’re interested in doing that, you have to create a portfolio of work. Start a blog, write about anything just to get you started. Most copywriters today need to know SEO, so find online resources to learn about it (there are TONNES out there, for free. It’s boring but extremely necessary). You also need to learn about social media, again, find resources online. Once you’ve got personal experience under your belt, start looking at pitching to websites to grow that portfolio. You’ll be rejected, a lot, but once you get one acceptance, more will come. Engage with content marketers on Twitter and LinkedIn, join in with marketing chat. Then, eventually, you’ll have enough experience for an entry level role. It’s hard work, requires a lot of unpaid labour, but degrees mean little in the industry, they’re just an entry requirement. It’s the portfolio that matters. A book isn’t good enough evidence unfortunately, you need to show you can writer for the web, which means blogs, social media, product copy, etc.

coolwalking · 12/06/2018 21:54

Its good to tailor your CV to match the job you're applying for. Make sure that the key skills required as set out in the advert are in your CV.

Leontine · 12/06/2018 21:54

Did you say you can drive?

RebeccaWrongDaily · 12/06/2018 21:55

you seem to have an answer / reason as to why you don't want to / aren't to blame / cannot do for everything people have suggested.

you say you rearranged a shop and that's why you fell out with your boss (not your fault, or your colleague) so you work in a shop? There are a million jobs like that. You need to get up and find something else - you sound quite 'wallow-y' to me.

Zaphodsotherhead · 12/06/2018 21:56

Trust me, there's no money in creative writing (twelve trad published novels experience talking). Write books in your spare time, but don't rely on it to make money!

MrsHappyAndMrCool · 12/06/2018 21:57

OP, no offence but you won’t get an editing job as you don’t use punctuation and capital letters where they need to be

^ why would you say something like that? sometimes I feel as if people on here get pleasure putting others down.

OP I don’t have any advice to give you, but I hope your situation changes for the better really soon Flowers

BellaJessica · 12/06/2018 21:57

To fill in my work history i was a babysitter from age 13 to 18 when i was studying ans moving (from a travelling nomad family situation.) Then i was at uni and volunteering in classrooms. I took time out to do more work experience and waitress in london before resuming my degree. I then worked as a ta and found it challenging being on an agency because on many occassions i would work hard and not be paid and some schools wouldnt let me sit with staff. I then went into a carehome that shut down which wasnt my fault and i sustained the injury there. Whilst there i applied to the retail shop/general warehouse i work in now. It was a great job very male centric but hard working women are a novelty here. I resat my gcse maths to apply to more courses but got a d and then the course went up in price to £135 which i cant afford. I learned to drive at uni but cant afford the car. Now my manager hates me so i have realised im not being allowed to progress and losing my hours so here i am applying for new stuff and wanting a bit of a whinge.

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MissVanjie · 12/06/2018 21:57

You should be tweaking your cv and writing a banging cover letter hitting each and every point on the person spec for every job you apply for.

Having a bit of a negative nancy, can’t do attitude won’t help - it’s a proper jungle out there.

NC4Now · 12/06/2018 21:58

I did an NCTJ post grad in Liverpool. It’s shorter than an MA but industry standard in journalism. It’s years ago now but still the course to do, and will get you into writing for a living, either newspapers, magazines or PR type work.
I’m freelance these days and write for national and regional newspapers and mags. I make a pretty decent living from it really - around average wage but NW living costs. It’s enough for me and my kids to live comfortably although we aren’t wealthy.

TheFairyCaravan · 12/06/2018 21:59

You could earn more than £5k per year quite easily while you decided what you wanted to do with your life long term. DS2 has worked in a pub chain since he started uni, and is now a team leader. He earns more than £5k and he’s a full time student nurse.

BellaJessica · 12/06/2018 21:59

Call bullshit all.you like.

So poor and jobs are impossible.
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