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passport form for ds

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c75kp0r · 11/06/2018 21:07

Beginning to realise how few friends we have and none are both uk passport holders AND fall into one of the categories who can sign. Have drawn a blank at the dentists, doctors surgery and school. His last passport ran out in 2014 and he needs one to enrol at College in September.
Any bright ideas?

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dementedpixie · 12/06/2018 06:46

Going from a child to adult passport can be done online as it is just done as a renewal. Only need a mandatory countersignarure if age 11 or under.

sunshinewithabitofdrizzle · 12/06/2018 06:50

Is he over 16 now? If so you dont need a countersignature.

RandomMess · 12/06/2018 07:28

@Puffycat do you not realise many families can't even afford a passport let alone travel?

Neither of us have had passports for 18 years let alone the DC! Was very difficult when we moved house, I've since made DH get a photo driving licence (hasn't driven in decades and never will again) because it's cheaper.

One of our DC is going on a school trip she'll still be 15 as is a summer baby very annoying to have to get her a 5 Year passport that she's unlikely to use again Sad

MadisonAvenue · 12/06/2018 07:37

elephant I renewed my son's passport online a few months ago with no problems whatsoever. It was his first adult one and we didn't have it countersigned despite his old one being issued when he was 11.

noblegiraffe · 12/06/2018 07:45

I renewed mine and my 2 kids’ passports this year and it was over £200. So expensive.

PolkerrisBeach · 12/06/2018 07:46

Is it because it's a sandwich type course - there are laws regarding working legally in the UK and in order to prove you have the right to work here, you are usually asked to provide a passport. Driving licence and birth certificate aren't proof of right to work here.

Other people like nurses, policemen, people who work for the fire brigade, accountants, people who work for the civil service are all allowed to countersign. And yes - in the case of an under 16 they are saying they know the adult, not the child, but still confirming the likeness.

lljkk · 12/06/2018 08:19

I needed a passport recently to sign DD up for college, to show her legal right of residence. Like folk said, birth certificate doesn't cut it.

bookmum08 · 12/06/2018 09:43

When we had the last local elections some places did a trial where people had to bring ID to prove they were the actual person entitled to vote - but it did not have to be a photo ID. A lot of people panicked because they don't have any photo id - passport or drivers licence but it turned out if you don't have photo id there were other items you could use - bank statements, bills etc. I really can't believe the college will insist on this. His old passport may have his cute kiddy photo instead of what he looks like now but that plus birth certificate parents birth certificates , details of child saving accounts from banks, details of child benefit that parents have recieved for 16, details of 16 years of life (ie swimming certificates) etc should prove that this is a 16 year old kid who was born here, has a 'right' to be here and is required (if in England) to be in education or training so they can't turn him away.

bookmum08 · 12/06/2018 09:59

When I got married (6 years ago) I was told we had to have photo id. Neither of us drive so no drivers licence, hubby had a passport but mine was five years out of date. I was told it was no good and I had to get a new one. It turns out that was incorrect info. What I could of done was provide a large amount of proof I was me. Bank statements, wage slips, P60s, nhs card, bank cards, our flat lease (plus old ones). Basically having my birth certificate plus official government documents (ie child benefit letters) and basically a decades worth of stuff with my name on (plus the out of date passport) would of been fine.
Unfortunately I had to pay £100 or so for a passport that is in my maiden name so when I'm asked for photo id for things I have to carry my passport plus marriage certificate to confirm the two different names.

PolkerrisBeach · 12/06/2018 10:19

OP - you need to clarify WHY he is being asked for a passport.

  1. If it's to prove identity then ask if they will accept other forms such as a provisional driving licence or statement from school.
  1. If it's to prove nationality / leave to remain / right to work then that is going to be more difficult.
RandomMess · 12/06/2018 10:58

My employer did concede that full birth certificate and driving licence photo card were evidence that proved my right to work in the UK.

Full birth certificate (inc parents) is evidence of right to work then the driving licence is government approved photo ID to prove I was me.

It's a complete pain Thanks

n0ne · 12/06/2018 12:14

Since when did the signatory have to be a UK passport holder? I got a Dutch mate who's a pilot to do it for DD a couple of years back and it was acceptedz

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