Bias Promotion

[HisBetterHalf]

Part of a team, one with 15 years experience, relevant qualifications and good feedback who was discounted at interview (for promotion) for another team member who has no experience, no qualifiactions but who allgedly 'could be moulded' into what manager wants? Is this not. wrong?

Wow ok

It depends upon the criteria for the role.

I suppose they get through HR, so must have met the requirements.

After that, the manager needs to be able to work with the person they take on, so personalities and being a good fit for the team will matter.

In management soft skills nearly always trump experience.

It can be the way that someone who has been there a long time can be stuck in their ways and not keen on changing. Not saying that's always the case but it can happen

Well, experience doesn't count for everything! You could have 15 yrs experience but have been crap at your job for 15 yrs! Someone else might have hardly any experience but be skilled, enthusiastic, intelligent, quick to learn, on the same wavelength as management and where the company is heading, passionate and good at their job!

As an employer I've hired the latter over the former and DEFINITELYmade the right choice!

Sounds like the one with 15 years' experience may be stuck in their ways and resistant to change. Also sounds like the manager knows this and has vetoed that person as someone who'd be a pai to manage at that level. Sometimes if a person has had that length of time in a role without promotion they are not as good as they think they are.

It’s impossible to say from your example if it’s “wrong”. But no, long service isn’t necessarily better than future potential

Do you think you were passed over for the newer person due to cost? I know, sometimes, the more experienced and skilled do get passed over for the less skilled but gets enough done and is cheaper.

If it is you who has been passed over then the best thing to do is be very kind and professional with your colleague. If you are bitter and angry and difficult then it's only you who will suffer

You lost me when you threw a strop because people didn’t rush to reply.

What are the parameters of the role? 15 years in the same job could be a disadvantage if the manager wants someone who can grow beyond their existing role quickly.

The wow Ok comment shows attitude so that's already a negative . If it was you who was passed up.

Regardless of experience you need more to be a manager. Personal skills. If they're ready to be mooted it's easier to train people to be a manager then people who have loads off experience who think they're the perfect manager and would be stubborn and think hey knowing all because they've had a job for 15 euars

For me personally experience isn't a factor

Some of the best managers I've known have come in driven for promotion learned the ropes and then got promoted or come from external with a wealth of understanding in a variety of roles

Also it depends on what they are looking for- and if I was unsuccessful I'd be asking for clear feedback to see if this is something that can be worked on or should I be looking elsewhere for my next steps