Kirstie Allsopp flies separately from kids

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-44353321

I know this was from earlier in the week and just wondered what people thought? AIBU to think you should all fly together? Who is technically in charge of her kids? What if there is an incident on board? I see her point about it being expensive to all fly business class but I would fly economy with my kids if all together and business class if I was travelling alone or with DH only if I could afford to.

There's definitely been threads on here with (apparently) 'normal folk'. In fact there's been threads of it in different forms with different combination back in economy.

Had dad in first with rest of family in economy for a holiday
Parents in Business class children/nanny in economy
Friends (as two couples) going away together with one set travelling business

I know real life people who were mighty put out when her parents wouldn't agree to sit in economy with their children when they sat in business class (on a holiday her parents were paying for).

Don't know many young kids who'd appreciate a good steak tbh, they'd probably rather have the sausages.

My 8y old DD does. Medium rare. No need for chips.
That woman lives in a completely different universe. I can't find an opinion of hers that I would find relevant to my life considering I wasn't born to privilege and haven't had staff to tend to my needs since I was born. If she treats her children like that she probably leaves them happily in care of their nannies and only engages with them for photoshoots.

What a thread. Posh bashing, envy and a slice of celebrity hating.

Good on Kirsty. I flew alone- no parents in the plane at all- a few times when I was a young teen. And reader, I lived.

The hysterical around this is so sanctimommy it is ridiculous. Get over yourselves.

How are the children being treated badly? Almost all 12 year old children would have plenty of room in an economy seat. They get to develop independence and have the freedom to make their own decisions. For my child that does not mean disturbing anyone.

Can't see any envy, as for "celebrity hating", that's a good thing in my book, it's not actual hate anyway, but I hate all things "celebrity" too, i never understand people who love the whole celebrity culture thing.

sanctimommy I love that. Don't know if you invented it Susan, but if you did you're a genius.

It sums up MN to a tee.

green

The thing about hating on anyone you don't actually know because of their background is that it says more about you than it does about them.

Sour grapes are never a good look.

I quite like KA

I don't see any hate though Miss. I certainly don't think criticism of celebs means anyone's actually hating them. Speaking for myself, i don't hate anyone i know in real life, I certainly couldn't over a "celebrity" But i do think love of celebrity is a bad thing.

I also think it's wrong to automatically jump to the conclusion that anyone's envious or jealous of someone just because they don't like them.

What a thread. Posh bashing, envy and a slice of celebrity hating.

I'm sorry, the hideously over-privileged are fair game. I'm sure they're too busy leading extravagant lifestyles to bother reading what a few plebs think on Mumsnet think.

I wouldn't want to be Kirsty Alsop, not for all the money in the world, I couldn't fly separate to my child, I have more morals. It has nothing to do with jealousy.

green Your post was ambiguous. It seemed to suggest that you hate people just because they are celebrities.

The hate and posh bashing is pretty clear on here. As is the mummy shaming. I assume her husband is jointly responsible for this decision.

Things she has been criticised for:

Being the daughter of a baronet.
Being well spoken
Being a working mother
Being a TV personality

It's like she's won at Mumsnet most hated bingo. If she uses a toilet brush then she's got a full house

Things she should be criticised for:

Being a Tory
Being smug and condescending
Not giving a stuff about anyone
Being on TV far too much
Contributing to the rise in the house price bubble
Being over privileged
Flying without her children

Just because she's a woman and a mother doesn't mean we can't criticise her. Are people saying we can only criticise men now?

Mummy shaming

It's not though is it.

It's not wrong to criticise parents who make bad decisions. People are very quick to do that when it comes to the poor and nobody squeals "mummy shaming" then.

At Chelsea Flower Show. Thought she had lost weight?

media.gettyimages.com/photos/kirstie-allsopp-attending-the-chelsea-flower-show-on-may-21-2018-in-picture-id961063144?s=612x612

Mummy shaming??!!!

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Carry on then. But this thread really shows up some people for the very nasty inner core.

How about not commenting on other people's parenting decisions?

Opinions are like arseholes. Everything me has one and they mostly stink. Like this thread.

Everyone not Everything me

Way to undermine my own point

You're right namechanger why on earth shouldn't we say what we think without being being accused of envy. What a depressingly awful world it would be if we robotically followed like sheep and blindly accepted all these privileged lovey types who love to tell us how to live our lives but in actual fact might as well be on a different planet to the rest of us.

If we shouldn't criticise them then we shouldn't praise them either. If we are to discuss and give our opinions on celebs (which is what they want) then it shouldn't all be about how great they are. How bloody odd that would be.

We don't have to like celebs and we can say why we don't like them without being called bloody jealous. So ridiculous.

Carry on then. We will.

I take it your opinion is included there then Miss

Miss you're either stupid or deliberately misinterpreting what i'm saying. I don't hate the individual person, i hate the celebrity culture. If you want to think that means i hate all celebrities i really don't give a flying fuck.

Ooooooh

Catty.

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It just comes across as selfish.
Why not just pay for the kids to sit with them in business. It's funny she thinks it'll teach them to want to work harder. That's coming from an already privileged POV.
Gordon Ramsey too, and he's even wealthier I imagine.