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Did having your own DC make you reflect on your own upbringing?

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ethelfleda · 06/06/2018 11:39

Inspired by another thread here.

My DS (PFB!) is now 7mo and I love and adore him to bits.

Since I fell pregnant, I have been reflecting a LOT on my childhood and I am finding it really hard to make peace with the way I was raised.

Both of my parents would smack/slap me and generally be rough. I feel they treated me as an inconvenience most of the time.
My father had been known to throw me across a room. He would also come in to watch T.V. and drag me and my dsis out of his way (rather than asking us to move) when we were only maybe 4 or 5. He would regularly hit me if I had been naughty.
I'm finding it harder to make peace with my mother's actions though. She wouldn't just hit when I was naughty. She would do it if I had made a mistake or been clumsy or was singing silly songs or just generally being a child. She would sometimes use a slipper but more often than not, it was a slap across the back of the head and she would shout 'clumsy sod' or 'stupid sod' at me.
I only made the connection between this and a form of self harm I sometimes resort to. If I am particularly stressed I will hit myself over the head and tell myself I am clumsy or worthless or stupid or whatever. For example if I have accidentally spilled something or banged my head. I feel such hatred for myself at times. Like I am completely useless. It just happens like a chain reaction that I can't seem to stop. I am trying very very hard not to as I never want my DS to witness anything like this (he never has) but the hatred I feel sometimes for myself is very overwhelming.
I still see my mother every week but feel it'd be pointless to tell her how i feel as it would just upset her. I have vowed not to raise DS this way!

Did anyone else come to this conclusion when they had DC? That maybe your childhood wasn't actually normal and you can't believe your parents could have treated you this way?
Am I being a little precious even? Maybe I need the brutal honesty of mn to tell me to stop dwelling and get over it??

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corythatwas · 06/06/2018 11:45

I think that is a very normal reaction and a good thing- well obviously not a good thing that it happened to you, but that you have the ability to reflect on it. Let's put it this way: the last person who had an unhappy childhood in my family was my grandfather back in the 1890s; everyone who has come after him has benefitted from the good parenting he developed as a response to that. That's a lot of people whose lives would have turned out different if he had not had the strength to say "my children's lives will not be like this". It was not about blame- he recognised that his mother had had very few choices. But it was about using that experience to think about his own parenting.

Eggzandbacon · 06/06/2018 11:53

When I met DH he constantly told me how brilliant and perfect his parents were.
I think having DC has made him see this was far from the truth.
They made very little effort and particularly his mum just wasn’t that interested. She wouldn’t even come to a school play 2 minutes from home, wasn’t interested in how he was doing in school. They never went anywhere or did anything.

We had ongoing issues with them making no effort to visit us (we lived a big distance away) and when we ran out of holiday/just couldn’t make it - they were happy not to see him for months, rather than have to go into any effort. I think now the idea of not seeing DC for months seems unbearable and how his parents weren’t that fussed.

MehLady · 06/06/2018 12:12

When I had my PfB a lot of the bad things from my childhood came flooding back, my step father was mentally abusive and had bi polar. On some of my more tired days I would wish my mum ever met him even though my sister who I love wouldn’t have been born. I’ve been NC for 6 years now and I’m so glad it happened before lo was born!

But then I also thought about when I was sexually assulted, self harming, worked as a call girl, failed uni..twice! All the horrible things that happened in my life, I’m glad I thought about these things and considered how they happened I’m far more at peace with myself and focused on raising my LO my PFB my rainbow 🌈 child on being happy healthy and have her own life.

P.s I found tying a hair band around my wrist and flicking it when I had thoughts about self harming helped and touching my thumb to each of my fingers individually while going through my thoughts xx

funinthesun18 · 06/06/2018 12:18

Yes. My upbringing was a lot better and I feel awful about it that my children don't have the same. My mum and dad were/are very middle class, plenty of money for a nice house, holidays, days out, activities etc... I had good friendships and was always a good achiever at school. I had 1 sibling who was older and we both had our own bedrooms so I didn't go without or have to compensate because of having other siblings if you know what I mean. We also had a car and could go to places.

My children so far have had a very different upbringing. I fell pregnant very young with my first and had no stable job at that point in my life. The father who I am still with now has been dragging me down for 10 years now and it means that I haven't really been able to give my children the absolute best. I really want to change all that.
I live in a 2 bed council house on an alright estate. We go on holidays to the caravan in Blackpool and my dad has to run us there because we don't have a car. Not having a car means we can't really go on days out outside of our town so it's always the local park. I have 3 children and this restricts how much one on one time I can give to each one and it does affect their lives. They don't get to have friends round because I'm always so bogged down as it is that I can't cope with another child in the house. I used to have my best friend at my house every single weekend because we had the space to do so. The garden is not as nice as I had when I was a child, I don't like the kids playing on the street because I'm scared of something happening to them whereas I used to play out all the time. They do no hobbies whereas I played the violin and was an excellent swimmer.

I just feel like I'm failing my kids after the upbringing I had which was in one word amazing.

sockunicorn · 06/06/2018 12:28

very much so. and my parenting style has (around 98%) been based on the total opposite of what they would have done. They have MAJOR problems with this - but i dont care. We had a massive fallout when they discovered they would not be the ones named in my will to take care of my DC if anything happened to me & DH. I explained to them "your style of parenting is not what i want, its too different to mine". Theyve never ever acknowledged anything they did was wrong. "it was what was done then". ummmm no it wasnt. My grandma isnt like that and DHs mum isnt, so it clearly wasnt "what was done".

threelittlesoliders · 06/06/2018 12:31

Completely agree with you OP.
Becoming a parent definitely made me look at my childhood as abnormal. There are many things that happened to me and my siblings, that I would never tolerate happening to my own DC.
I'd like to think it has made me a better parent, by now seeing the bigger picture.

HotelRoomforOne · 06/06/2018 13:10

I understand you OP. I find it upsetting too. Now I have 2 small children. Every day I see their trust and vulnerability, their need to be loved and appreciated and I cannot fathom some of my parent’s treatment of me. Yes, they were 21 when they had me, but both very intelligent and successful people despite this.I really feel a lot of their behaviour was inexcusable.

My mother was incredibly cold towards me once I was about 4. She likes babies, not children. My father had a vicious temper, whenever anything went wrong for him, big or small, he would create an atmosphere where we were almost afraid to breathe too loudly, on threat of violence, verbal and physical.

Knowing of my father’s temper my mother decided I should go overseas with him alone when I was five. The trip was terrifying in parts because of my father’s brutal temper. I would never desire to send my 5 year old daughter away from me for even a week, let alone six months, and to the other side of the world. I would miss her so much.
Again when I was 9 my parents put myself and my 5 year old brother on an aeroplane by ourselves and sent us from Australia to Wales where we were to live my (barely known) grandmother for 6 months. My parents were not poor, or unable to care for us, they just put themselves and their careers first every time.
When my mother arrived in Wales to pick us up and bring us back to Australia she did not hug, kiss or touch me, despite not seeing me for 6 months. I was not a bad child. She did this again after a long separation at 16, did not touch me at all when she saw her again, although she knew I’d had a difficult time settling into yet a new town/ school/ country. Her rejection of me sent a very clear message, while my young brain was still forming.

As an adult I still feel like I am not a real person, not worthy of love, I have had many failures, and achieved very little outside my daughters, whom I love and admire. I am so incredibly anxious and afraid most of the time. This all comes directly from the behaviour of my parents.

The sick twist is my mother and father now obsessively idolise my eldest daughter (They are not fussed about my younger daughter) and do their best to make me feel like a substandard parent. Sometimes I am actually afraid my mother is somehow going to try and take my child from me.
I check myself every day to make sure I am not acting the way they did (my younger brother was spared a lot of this. My mother did everything to let me know he was the favourite. I love my brother and don’t hold this against him, or envy him at all)
My heart would be completely broken if my own children ever felt these feelings about me, as their parent. Pardon the epic, feel very sad putting that all down here.

Thehop · 06/06/2018 13:12

It’s only having my own daughter that I realise how bloody shitty my mother has been to me.

HotelRoomforOne · 06/06/2018 13:20

And OP, you aren’t being precious at all, these are difficult memories to process, thrown into sharp relief by you now being a parent to (almost) 2. You are comparing your parenting with theirs and can’t quite believe the difference. I am too. Unfortunately I don’t know how to move on. I still see my parents all the time too and try to appreciate their good points Sad and have an adult relationship with them, which is very difficult x

Strugglingtodomybest · 06/06/2018 13:26

My parents weren't as bad as yours - only my mum hit me. But she was emotionally cold to me and that hurts more. I've had some counselling, which helped.

IDontBowlOnShabbos · 06/06/2018 13:34

I think I wrote a very similar post to this when my daughter was first born! My mum was great when I was little but my dad was really crap and it definitely had an effect on my sister and me growing up.

I still sometimes have the urge to self harm and have a very negitive inner voice but I think it's made me a better person, certainly less judgemental and more empathetic, which has helped my parenting.

I don't feel bad about it now my daughters older, I can happily spend time with both my parents and appreciate them as people while still knowing that they weren't the best parents and did lots of things I would never do.
I think when you first become a parent reflection is normal and healthy, you can use it to help decide what kind of parent you want to be and hopefully hold on to those values. Congratulations on the baby, I'm sure you'll do a wonderful job! Flowers

theressomethingaboutmarie · 06/06/2018 13:34

Oh my goodness yes! I had a very unstable childhood (father left before I can remember, mother left when I was about 5, went to live with father and SM who was awful to me) and have done every bloody thing in my power to make sure that my kids have a different life. My mother suffered from depression and so our early childhood was very very hard. We came home from school one day to be greeted by the social services as she'd upped and left during the school day (and we never saw or heard from her again).

I am still wary of people and still sometimes have the feelings of unworthiness (mother left, father left, SM hated me and told me I was fat and ugly and regularly ignored me). I regularly tell my children how much I love them and how proud I am of them. We also work really hard to promote a positive body image (DD is 10 and so starting to become conscious of how she looks) by focussing on strength, fitness, health etc.

DH and I are very happy and stable although take nothing for granted and work hard at our relationship. I could sometimes weep for the poor, nervous, traumatised kid I was back then.

FozBoz · 06/06/2018 14:26

Oh yes. Your post rings so true.

I had DS1 7 years ago and the period of reflection on my own childhood started then. My parents weren't really abusive, but were/are very cold, distant and disinterested.

Our childhood was not all that happy, our parents never made us feel special or loved just a huge inconvenience.

I tried really hard when DS1 was tiny to forge a relationship with them for his sake, but they don't really care. I've recently had DS2 nearly 4 months ago. Beyond acknowledging he was born, they haven't asked how he is or visited.

It's no coincidence that me and my two sisters have struggled with MH issues, me similar to the ones you describe OP. There are lots of strategies you can use to help. I would consider speaking with a professional if your self harming becomes too much for you.

Remember, being self aware is very protective against history repeating, and I'm sure you'll do a grand job Flowers

ethelfleda · 06/06/2018 14:34

Wow theressomething that's brutal!

And to all of you who have suffered buy have broken the cycle with your own children Flowers

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Poptart4 · 06/06/2018 14:45

I've definitely thought back over my childhood since having my own children. My parents weren't abusive like others but they were lazy, for want of a better word.

My parents raised 5 kids on the dole because my dad couldn't be bothered working. We had nothing growing up. No holidays, day trips, treats. All my clothes were second hand right into my teens. Money isn't everything but I always felt embarrassed and insecure because we were the 'poor' kids.

I needed braces for a bad overbite. We could have got them free due to low income but my mam never bothered to follow it up so here I am in my 30's still with a bad overbite. My sister and I had fleas that my mom never bothered to fully get rid off. Every couple of month's she'd put some lotion in our hair but wouldn't take the eggs out so they kept coming back. We were the 'nitbags' in school. Which didn't help with my self esteem.

Looking back there was just loads of things my parents could have done for us that didn't cost money and they just never bothered. I always thought I had a happy childhood and mostly I did but having children of my own made me realise how almost neglectful my parents were.

Grasslands · 06/06/2018 15:04

My parents worshiped the ground I walked on, I could do no wrong. Every wish was catered to. I was never reprimanded (well twice in my whole life). I did many stupid things (hitchhiked, went out with men I didn’t know, smoked pot etc).
I was very firm with my trio, much more involved and much more critical, and yes they got occasional spankings (for safety issues like running in front of a bus).

ethelfleda · 07/06/2018 08:55

I get the neglect thing too. Being left to fall asleep in the sun on holiday with no sun cream at 9 years old and then being walked back to hotel later that evening and left there by myself whilst suffering sun stroke was a good example. Thinking back now I'm quite shocked!

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AnneElliott · 07/06/2018 09:05

I had the same feelings op when DS was born. My parents were lazy and what bothers me most is that they didn't try their best. Loads of kids at my school had less money than us, but their parents really cared, and made an effort.

My parents should not have had kids, but I'm determined to be different with DS. We have a really close relationship and such a laugh with each other - I never had that.

I also stopped at 1 child. I couldn't risk treating kids differently and since my mother was so jealous of me, I didn't want to risk having a girl and repeating the past.

CombineBananaFister · 07/06/2018 09:21

Yanbu op, sometimes it takes a major change like this to make honest reflection possible. But stay positive, like another poster said, being aware of your childhood not being ok means history will be less likely to repeat itself with your own parenting style?
My mum had mental health issues which were just left undiagnosed (1970s) so not great for women's mental health information. This obviously affected our upbringing but also gave us a skewed view of what was normal which I probably didn't acknowledge until I had my own DS and was making choices for him and realised how I dI'd not want him to have my upbringing. The only problem being now, I probably over compensate a little bit with structure and stability, but there's worse things.
Sorry you had such an awful time but good luck with your little one x

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